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In reply to the discussion: Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules mail ballots with incorrect dates won't be counted [View all]BumRushDaShow
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I realize Philly rules PA
Here in the West, theres virtually zero talk about the ballot issue. The suburbs and surrounding areas, where I live, are mostly vote in person. The city of Pittsburgh and other areas with a large number of lower income people who vote consistently Democratic, Im afraid dont know about needing to request a ballot. Thats the difference between now and 2020.
In 2020, ballots were automatically mailed to anyone who wanted one, regardless of reason. Thats not the case this year.
Here in the West, theres virtually zero talk about the ballot issue. The suburbs and surrounding areas, where I live, are mostly vote in person. The city of Pittsburgh and other areas with a large number of lower income people who vote consistently Democratic, Im afraid dont know about needing to request a ballot. Thats the difference between now and 2020.
In 2020, ballots were automatically mailed to anyone who wanted one, regardless of reason. Thats not the case this year.
That's not correct. The law has not changed between Oct. 31, 2019 when then-Gov. Tom Wolf signed it, and now.
If someone wanted to vote "absentee" - whether it was because they were "out of town" or had some other circumstance (e.g., medical) where they couldn't come "in person" to vote, OR, if they wanted to avail of the new "no-excuse absentee ballot", they had to request to receive an "absentee ballot" AND DESIGNATE which type of "absentee" category ( "excuse" or "no-excuse" ) that they were applying for.
There was nothing "automatic". You had to affirmatively select the option.
When the initial ballot request is made, it also includes the OPTION, to either do this ONE TIME -or- to continue to receive a mail ballot for any remaining elections for that single year. Then you had to "start over" to mail vote the next year.
If you didn't select the option to continue mail ballots for that year, then you got nothing "automatically" mailed to you for any later elections after the initial application (including any special elections).
Hopefully, the huge turnout in your part of the state will offset what *could* happen here in the West from people not knowing they need to request a ballot by 10/29. The huge population of Philly voting Democratic should be enough to carry PA for Kamala.
Somehow, magically, Josh Shapiro and John Fetterman got elected Governor and U.S. Senator respectively, in 2022. People weren't clueless on the western side of the state, mainly because Fetterman lived there. He beat Oz by over 260,000 votes.
And they certainly didn't elect the 45-annointed insurrectionist loon Doug Mastriano to be the Governor. Shapiro beat Mastriano by over 3/4 million votes (~768,000).
So there was a good-sized turnout, state-wide.
2022
The difference for Shapiro for example, between his 2020 run for AG and 2022 run for Governor, was about 500,000 votes lower during the "off year" turnout. But incredibly, the 2016, 2018, 2020 & 2022 elections each had almost 1 million MORE voters than the 2014 "off year" election (when Tom Wolf first ran for election against teabagger Corbett).
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Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules mail ballots with incorrect dates won't be counted [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Sep 13
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It seems most of the issues have been with envelopes with no date added at all
BumRushDaShow
Sep 13
#4
"The ballot has no signature or other identifying markings on it, just the candidates and the issues" - Nope not here
BumRushDaShow
Sep 14
#43
Sorry, my wording left room to misinterpret. The point I meant to convey is
InstantGratification
Sep 14
#49
"The QR code identifying the ward is new to me. I don't know if OH does that or not."
BumRushDaShow
Sep 14
#59
I'm not sure why the date is so important on the ballot as long as it gets in on time.
LymphocyteLover
Sep 14
#34
We have no "early in-person voting" here in PA (i.e., using voting machines)
BumRushDaShow
Sep 13
#6
Different Counties have been configuring the envelopes and ballots differently
BumRushDaShow
Sep 14
#42
There are Counties here that offer the ability to "cure" including here in Philly
BumRushDaShow
Sep 13
#10
"people sometimes see DATE and they put their birthday" - wow, that's the ultimate in early voting
progree
Sep 13
#13
If the ballot is deemed invalid, will they be notified in time to then vote in person?
everyonematters
Sep 13
#11
If we lose based on ballots with incorrect dates, we deserve to lose. C'mon people, it's not so hard to fill in the
Martin68
Sep 13
#17
As with any notarized document or contract, the date is the actual date you sign a document.
Martin68
Sep 16
#82
I remember other Republicon tricks in Florida 2000 with butterfly ballots. Another design for republicon filth to cheat.
ArmedLiberal24
Sep 14
#23
PA Supreme Court cited a lack of standing in overturning the Commonwealth Court
Deminpenn
Sep 14
#29
There went contract law - all you need is a postmark - Photo your enveiope!!!!!!
bucolic_frolic
Sep 14
#30
Not every piece of successfully delivered mail gets a postmark. I receive MANY cards and letters *
Oopsie Daisy
Sep 14
#40
At least here in Philly, they (the City Commissioners who run the elections) have been talking it up
BumRushDaShow
Sep 14
#65
I sense a "hanging Chad" decision as a clerk if a "11" is really a "10" or "Nov" is really "Nav"
LiberalArkie
Sep 14
#47