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BumRushDaShow

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Sun Sep 15, 2024, 05:30 AM
Sep 15
I realize Philly rules PA

Here in the West, there’s virtually zero talk about the ballot issue. The suburbs and surrounding areas, where I live, are mostly vote in person. The city of Pittsburgh and other areas with a large number of lower income people who vote consistently Democratic, I’m afraid don’t know about needing to request a ballot. That’s the difference between now and 2020.

In 2020, ballots were automatically mailed to anyone who wanted one, regardless of reason. That’s not the case this year.


That's not correct. The law has not changed between Oct. 31, 2019 when then-Gov. Tom Wolf signed it, and now.

If someone wanted to vote "absentee" - whether it was because they were "out of town" or had some other circumstance (e.g., medical) where they couldn't come "in person" to vote, OR, if they wanted to avail of the new "no-excuse absentee ballot", they had to request to receive an "absentee ballot" AND DESIGNATE which type of "absentee" category ( "excuse" or "no-excuse" ) that they were applying for.

There was nothing "automatic". You had to affirmatively select the option.

When the initial ballot request is made, it also includes the OPTION, to either do this ONE TIME -or- to continue to receive a mail ballot for any remaining elections for that single year. Then you had to "start over" to mail vote the next year.

If you didn't select the option to continue mail ballots for that year, then you got nothing "automatically" mailed to you for any later elections after the initial application (including any special elections).

Hopefully, the huge turnout in your part of the state will offset what *could* happen here in the West from people not knowing they need to request a ballot by 10/29. The huge population of Philly voting Democratic should be enough to carry PA for Kamala.


Somehow, magically, Josh Shapiro and John Fetterman got elected Governor and U.S. Senator respectively, in 2022. People weren't clueless on the western side of the state, mainly because Fetterman lived there. He beat Oz by over 260,000 votes.

And they certainly didn't elect the 45-annointed insurrectionist loon Doug Mastriano to be the Governor. Shapiro beat Mastriano by over 3/4 million votes (~768,000).

So there was a good-sized turnout, state-wide.

2022




The difference for Shapiro for example, between his 2020 run for AG and 2022 run for Governor, was about 500,000 votes lower during the "off year" turnout. But incredibly, the 2016, 2018, 2020 & 2022 elections each had almost 1 million MORE voters than the 2014 "off year" election (when Tom Wolf first ran for election against teabagger Corbett).
What dates need to match up? SomedayKindaLove Sep 13 #1
It seems most of the issues have been with envelopes with no date added at all BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #4
The date that goes on the security envelope InstantGratification Sep 13 #22
Thank you for the explanation. evolves Sep 14 #36
I love voting by mail InstantGratification Sep 14 #38
"The ballot has no signature or other identifying markings on it, just the candidates and the issues" - Nope not here BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #43
Sorry, my wording left room to misinterpret. The point I meant to convey is InstantGratification Sep 14 #49
"The QR code identifying the ward is new to me. I don't know if OH does that or not." BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #59
This confirms what I suspected. ShazzieB Sep 14 #58
Must the handwritten date on the security envelope match the postmark date? Oopsie Daisy Sep 15 #69
Not a matter of matching up, some just forget to put the date after they sign Deminpenn Sep 14 #25
It's A Farce RobinA Sep 16 #77
How is the voter liable for a date error if the ballot was received in time? Karadeniz Sep 13 #2
I'm not sure why the date is so important on the ballot as long as it gets in on time. LymphocyteLover Sep 14 #34
I usually early vote in person a couple days before progree Sep 13 #3
We have no "early in-person voting" here in PA (i.e., using voting machines) BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #6
I haven't trusted mail ballots in Texas for years. Lonestarblue Sep 13 #5
We have only been doing this current thing since 2020 BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #9
The old absentee ballots in my county had the forms printed horizontally Deminpenn Sep 14 #27
Different Counties have been configuring the envelopes and ballots differently BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #42
It should be standard Deminpenn Sep 14 #48
Well BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #50
Meant should be standard within the Commonwealth of PA Deminpenn Sep 14 #62
I don't think that will ever happen either BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #63
I'm the same way as you, and I'm in Kansas. slightlv Sep 13 #14
Have you recived your mail in ballot yet? I'm in Kansas--Sedgwick Co Bengus81 Sep 14 #37
After the hassle last time, slightlv Sep 14 #61
DO NOT trust mail in anywhere HagathaCrispy Sep 13 #7
In person with ID Linpark90 Sep 13 #21
The issue with dates on mail in ballots MissKat Sep 13 #8
There are Counties here that offer the ability to "cure" including here in Philly BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #10
Yes and the ballot "curing" is also done in Allegheny County FakeNoose Sep 13 #19
"people sometimes see DATE and they put their birthday" - wow, that's the ultimate in early voting progree Sep 13 #13
How many R's vs D's do you have on your state's court? slightlv Sep 13 #15
The PA Supreme Court has a 5-2 majority of Dems. John1956PA Sep 14 #26
PA Supreme Court is 5D, 2R Deminpenn Sep 14 #28
OFFS! nt RobinA Sep 16 #78
Ruling was technical Deminpenn Sep 16 #80
If the ballot is deemed invalid, will they be notified in time to then vote in person? everyonematters Sep 13 #11
It seems to vary from County to County BumRushDaShow Sep 13 #12
If it's known that's all the election office is allowed to check (of course) slightlv Sep 13 #16
If we lose based on ballots with incorrect dates, we deserve to lose. C'mon people, it's not so hard to fill in the Martin68 Sep 13 #17
+1. I'd bet money GOPers are more apt to screw up ballots than Democrats. Silent Type Sep 14 #51
What Is RobinA Sep 16 #79
As with any notarized document or contract, the date is the actual date you sign a document. Martin68 Sep 16 #82
Hard To Understand This Ruling DallasNE Sep 13 #18
Until now, the quarantined ballots have been relegated to provisional status FakeNoose Sep 13 #20
Looks like 2000 all over again !TRE45ON. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 14 #24
We shoud sue again for provisional status bucolic_frolic Sep 14 #31
I remember other Republicon tricks in Florida 2000 with butterfly ballots. Another design for republicon filth to cheat. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 14 #23
No, that's the wrong take Deminpenn Sep 14 #32
PA Supreme Court cited a lack of standing in overturning the Commonwealth Court Deminpenn Sep 14 #29
I hope you're right FakeNoose Sep 14 #41
There went contract law - all you need is a postmark - Photo your enveiope!!!!!! bucolic_frolic Sep 14 #30
Updated republican racist/hate driven poll tax wolfie001 Sep 14 #33
I agree on John Roberts being a spineless weasel, in general Dock_Yard Sep 14 #55
Already posted MichMan Sep 14 #35
CAN'T WE PLEASE ALL GO AND VOTE IN PERSON SO THEY CANT STEAL IT???? HagathaCrispy Sep 14 #39
THIS WOULD BE BEST -- LEAVE NO DOUBTS ON OUR VOTES ACTUALLY COUNTING Dock_Yard Sep 14 #56
Not every piece of successfully delivered mail gets a postmark. I receive MANY cards and letters * Oopsie Daisy Sep 14 #40
PA mail in ballots must be requested PennRalphie Sep 14 #44
They have required that people "request" or "renew" each year since 2020 BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #60
I'm not sure everyone knows this PennRalphie Sep 14 #64
At least here in Philly, they (the City Commissioners who run the elections) have been talking it up BumRushDaShow Sep 14 #65
I realize Philly rules PA PennRalphie Sep 14 #66
To respond BumRushDaShow Sep 15 #67
You have great in depth knowledge. PennRalphie Sep 15 #68
As a reply BumRushDaShow Sep 15 #71
There are very few indies here PennRalphie Sep 15 #72
And again BumRushDaShow Sep 15 #76
What's the make up of the PA Supreme Court? AdamGG Sep 14 #45
5 Democrats 2 Republicans Wiz Imp Sep 14 #53
Some "democracy" you have here. SidneyR Sep 14 #46
The Date Thing RobinA Sep 16 #81
I sense a "hanging Chad" decision as a clerk if a "11" is really a "10" or "Nov" is really "Nav" LiberalArkie Sep 14 #47
COLORADO VOTERS: in Colorado it's not enough to have your ballot postmarked by Election Day. CrispyQ Sep 14 #52
PEOPLE: JUST VOTE AT A POLLING PLACE THIS ONE TIME Dock_Yard Sep 14 #54
Agreed. Even when we're at the brink of losing our democracy, Frank D. Lincoln Sep 14 #57
NO - PA has no "early voting" BumRushDaShow Sep 15 #73
Oh come ON ... Dock_Yard Sep 16 #85
Most people DO go "in person" BumRushDaShow Sep 16 #86
i vote by mail et tu Sep 15 #70
THIS 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Sep 15 #74
... et tu Sep 15 #75
When I Went RobinA Sep 16 #83
good for you et tu Sep 16 #84
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