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Showing Original Post only (View all)"I think that's over." Gen. McCaffrey on NATO [View all]
THIS bothers me.
'I think that's over': Retired general declares death of key U.S. alliance
by Sarah K. Burris
MSN.com, February 19, 2025
Retired General Barry McCaffrey said he thinks that after 76 years, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, known as NATO, is "over."
Speaking on an MSNBC panel of foreign policy experts about President Donald Trump blaming Ukraine for Russia invading their border, McCaffrey lamented that he fears war is coming.
"Unfortunately, my own view is the damage is done," he said of Trump's failures in foreign policy. "It's now irrevocable. There's not a shred of rational argument among European powers to trust the United States' commitment to NATO and Article Five."
He remarked that NATO has served as "a deterrent organization" and "kept the peace for four generations."
"I think that's over," he confessed. "So, I think right now there's a scramble among all the European countries to include the Finns and the Swedes and others and who are borderline states, the Baltic states, Poland, etc., that they think they're under the gun."
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/i-think-that-s-over-retired-general-declares-death-of-key-u-s-alliance/ar-AA1zonJm
Dunno about the rest of the United States of America, but when a traitor installed by Vladimir Putin orders me to turn on my friends of 75-years in NATO, I don't dump my friends.
Fuck Turncoat Trump!
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This article (wondering about Turkey, in 2019) says there would have to be a material breach of the treaty
muriel_volestrangler
Thursday
#4
"Palling around with dictators" is what $arah Palin accused Obama of doing. Projection.
OMGWTF
Thursday
#9
Grassroots are gonna decide over the next four years if will remain free or not.
Magoo48
Thursday
#17
You have more faith in the average soldier understanding the nuances of orders from his/her CIC
Arazi
Thursday
#19
Yes Yes! There nothing more stabilization then have most of the world terrified of what-the-fuck.
chouchou
Thursday
#14
Agree...NATO will survive without the US. Putin will not be successful going up against a United EU
PortTack
Thursday
#21
May have started. After calling for Ukraine surrender, Kellogg pulls 180...
Kid Berwyn
Yesterday
#49
I guess we could say US foreign policy is currently incoherent, in flux, or just plain
Martin68
Yesterday
#54