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Igel

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56. That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks.

Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:38 PM

Jan 22

In early December when Trump said he'd pardon the J6 folk, the Biden-Harris DOJ said (citing SCOTUS) that acceptance would be an admission of guilt.

Then when Biden pardoned his family and various people on the J6 committee and witnesses he said explicitly that accepting them was no admission of guilt. And a lot of people said that Biden was right and SCOTUS was way off base and nobody, but nobody, should take accepting the pardon as an admission of guilt.

So there you go. Do you want SCOTUS/DOJ's or President Biden's take?

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J-6er arrested [View all] AkFemDem Jan 22 OP

That didn't take long. No doubt there will be more. Ocelot II Jan 22 #1

They may think they are now invincible. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #2

It didn't take long because the charges date to 2023. Igel Jan 22 #57

His past is catching up with him. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #58

Florida Man..What a surprise. n/t SheilaAnn Jan 22 #5

Next one will be from Texas, though lawlessness by white supremacists is encouraged here. Lonestarblue Jan 22 #21

Remember when it was reported that DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #41

That was definitely a FAFO situation. Ocelot II Jan 22 #42

That guy should be up for a Darwin Award. madinmaryland Jan 22 #49

Along with DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #51

That man is dead Brenda Thursday #70

I hope real lawmen got eyes on all the traitors DoBW Jan 22 #59

Just waiting for the avalanche. William769 Jan 22 #3

So, a pardon doesn't remove a felon conviction? Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #4

Not if you commit a new one. Ocelot II Jan 22 #6

I must have read it wrong. I thought he was arrested because he purchased a weapon when he was a felon. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #8

He was already a felon as the result of crimes he committed before 1/6. Ocelot II Jan 22 #12

He seems nice. It gives me a warm feeling to know he'll be back in the slammer. Hekate Jan 22 #18

I'm sure he won't be the last. Ocelot II Jan 22 #19

Well you know Nasruddin Jan 22 #31

Thanks. TomSlick Jan 22 #22

I thought I already replied to this. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #25

The recrudescence of felons. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 22 #28

It only removes the Jan. 6-related convictions. GoCubsGo Jan 22 #9

It does not remove the Jan. 6-related convictions. whopis01 Jan 22 #48

I'm wondering if maybe he was already a felon AkFemDem Jan 22 #10

He was. Ocelot II Jan 22 #13

No! It CONFIRMS the conviction. Grins Jan 22 #30

That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks. Igel Jan 22 #56

No. A pardon does not remove the conviction. whopis01 Jan 22 #47

1 down, 1499 to go /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #7

Some may learn the hard way sarisataka Jan 22 #11

Exactly, every state has a different process for getitng voting and gun ownership rights back. FSogol Thursday #69

From 2023: Florida man charged with setting off explosive device in Capitol tunnel during Jan. 6 riot Judi Lynn Jan 22 #14

Oh, you just wait. Mike 03 Jan 22 #15

Can't think of his name right now... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 22 #32

Good. Silent Type Jan 22 #16

Trump's first pre-emotive pardon no_hypocrisy Jan 22 #17

Remember the "soft on crime" attacks on Dukakis? Dem4life1970 Jan 22 #20

In MAGA world, only black and brown crime exists. Midnight Writer Jan 22 #23

YAY!!! Back where you belong, you bastard! calimary Jan 22 #24

Desatan will prob stick gold stars on his forehead & pardon him. SheltieLover Jan 22 #26

I didn't figure it would take very long... (nt) Paladin Jan 22 #27

He is truly one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive. LudwigPastorius Jan 22 #29

I was counting on this. Once a criminal always a criminal. Hope he cannot be pardoned again question everything Jan 22 #33

I too, was thinking this. This would be a good regular tracking item on DU, to track how many of these thugs SWBTATTReg Jan 22 #43

The recidivism rate will be high stollen Jan 22 #34

I don't understand Bird Lady Jan 22 #35

Yes, he was a felon prior to J6, and mistakenly decided that didnt matter anymore I guess ;-) AkFemDem Jan 22 #37

Thank you nt Bird Lady Jan 22 #40

Anyone re-offending needs to be charged at the state or local level mdbl Jan 22 #36

He should plead "Donald Trump" GreenWave Jan 22 #38

The pardon does not exculpate the charges. Rather it confirms them, and all applicable limitations post incarceration. Ford_Prefect Jan 22 #39

every one of them should have a cop on their tail 24/7 moonshinegnomie Jan 22 #44

One god damn day - (1) Nigrum Cattus Jan 22 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Jan 22 #46

Womp womp ck4829 Jan 22 #50

Maybe there are some cops that back the Blue instead of Trump. nt doc03 Jan 22 #52

So he exploded a bomb by the police and wasn't designated a terrorist uponit7771 Jan 22 #53

At this rate, he won't have time to lower food costs. louis-t Jan 22 #54

They are psychopaths Dem4life1234 Jan 22 #55

They think they have license to do whatever the F they want Bristlecone Jan 22 #60

Back to the Hoosegow! surfered Jan 22 #61

And so it begins. Katinfl Jan 22 #62

Criminals will be criminals, morons will be morons. Martin68 Jan 22 #63

The J6 Committee posted all of the evidence it gathered. SunSeeker Jan 22 #64

Daniel Charles "Willie Horton" Bell ? nt eppur_se_muova Jan 22 #65

Don't tell the convicted felon... Justice matters. Thursday #66

Will Trumpty pardon him? ificandream Thursday #67

Wouldn't it be terrible ChazInAz Thursday #68