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AkFemDem

(2,374 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:56 PM Jan 22

J-6er arrested

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/22/us/trump-news

One day after his charges stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol were dismissed in light of Trump’s sweeping pardons this week, Daniel Charles Ball of Florida was re-arrested on new gun charges. As first reported by Kyle Cheney of Politico, Ball was picked up in Florida on a warrant accusing him of being a felon in possession of a weapon. In the Jan. 6 case, he was charged with detonating an explosive device during the attack on the Capitol, injuring several police officers.
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J-6er arrested (Original Post) AkFemDem Jan 22 OP
That didn't take long. No doubt there will be more. Ocelot II Jan 22 #1
They may think they are now invincible. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #2
It didn't take long because the charges date to 2023. Igel Jan 22 #57
His past is catching up with him. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #58
Florida Man..What a surprise. n/t SheilaAnn Jan 22 #5
Next one will be from Texas, though lawlessness by white supremacists is encouraged here. Lonestarblue Jan 22 #21
Remember when it was reported that DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #41
That was definitely a FAFO situation. Ocelot II Jan 22 #42
That guy should be up for a Darwin Award. madinmaryland Jan 22 #49
Along with DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #51
That man is dead Brenda Jan 23 #70
I hope real lawmen got eyes on all the traitors DoBW Jan 22 #59
Just waiting for the avalanche. William769 Jan 22 #3
So, a pardon doesn't remove a felon conviction? Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #4
Not if you commit a new one. Ocelot II Jan 22 #6
I must have read it wrong. I thought he was arrested because he purchased a weapon when he was a felon. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #8
He was already a felon as the result of crimes he committed before 1/6. Ocelot II Jan 22 #12
He seems nice. It gives me a warm feeling to know he'll be back in the slammer. Hekate Jan 22 #18
I'm sure he won't be the last. Ocelot II Jan 22 #19
Well you know Nasruddin Jan 22 #31
Thanks. TomSlick Jan 22 #22
I thought I already replied to this. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #25
The recrudescence of felons. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 22 #28
It only removes the Jan. 6-related convictions. GoCubsGo Jan 22 #9
It does not remove the Jan. 6-related convictions. whopis01 Jan 22 #48
I'm wondering if maybe he was already a felon AkFemDem Jan 22 #10
He was. Ocelot II Jan 22 #13
No! It CONFIRMS the conviction. Grins Jan 22 #30
That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks. Igel Jan 22 #56
No. A pardon does not remove the conviction. whopis01 Jan 22 #47
1 down, 1499 to go /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #7
Some may learn the hard way sarisataka Jan 22 #11
Exactly, every state has a different process for getitng voting and gun ownership rights back. FSogol Jan 23 #69
From 2023: Florida man charged with setting off explosive device in Capitol tunnel during Jan. 6 riot Judi Lynn Jan 22 #14
Oh, you just wait. Mike 03 Jan 22 #15
Can't think of his name right now... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 22 #32
Good. Silent Type Jan 22 #16
Trump's first pre-emotive pardon no_hypocrisy Jan 22 #17
Remember the "soft on crime" attacks on Dukakis? Dem4life1970 Jan 22 #20
In MAGA world, only black and brown crime exists. Midnight Writer Jan 22 #23
YAY!!! Back where you belong, you bastard! calimary Jan 22 #24
Desatan will prob stick gold stars on his forehead & pardon him. SheltieLover Jan 22 #26
I didn't figure it would take very long... (nt) Paladin Jan 22 #27
He is truly one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive. LudwigPastorius Jan 22 #29
I was counting on this. Once a criminal always a criminal. Hope he cannot be pardoned again question everything Jan 22 #33
I too, was thinking this. This would be a good regular tracking item on DU, to track how many of these thugs SWBTATTReg Jan 22 #43
The recidivism rate will be high stollen Jan 22 #34
I don't understand Bird Lady Jan 22 #35
Yes, he was a felon prior to J6, and mistakenly decided that didnt matter anymore I guess ;-) AkFemDem Jan 22 #37
Thank you nt Bird Lady Jan 22 #40
Anyone re-offending needs to be charged at the state or local level mdbl Jan 22 #36
He should plead "Donald Trump" GreenWave Jan 22 #38
The pardon does not exculpate the charges. Rather it confirms them, and all applicable limitations post incarceration. Ford_Prefect Jan 22 #39
every one of them should have a cop on their tail 24/7 moonshinegnomie Jan 22 #44
One god damn day - (1) Nigrum Cattus Jan 22 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Jan 22 #46
Womp womp ck4829 Jan 22 #50
Maybe there are some cops that back the Blue instead of Trump. nt doc03 Jan 22 #52
So he exploded a bomb by the police and wasn't designated a terrorist uponit7771 Jan 22 #53
At this rate, he won't have time to lower food costs. louis-t Jan 22 #54
They are psychopaths Dem4life1234 Jan 22 #55
They think they have license to do whatever the F they want Bristlecone Jan 22 #60
Back to the Hoosegow! surfered Jan 22 #61
And so it begins. Katinfl Jan 22 #62
Criminals will be criminals, morons will be morons. Martin68 Jan 22 #63
The J6 Committee posted all of the evidence it gathered. SunSeeker Jan 22 #64
Daniel Charles "Willie Horton" Bell ? nt eppur_se_muova Jan 22 #65
Don't tell the convicted felon... Justice matters. Jan 23 #66
Will Trumpty pardon him? ificandream Jan 23 #67
Wouldn't it be terrible ChazInAz Jan 23 #68

Ocelot II

(122,615 posts)
1. That didn't take long. No doubt there will be more.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jan 22

Some of those assholes will be incorrigible.

Igel

(36,515 posts)
57. It didn't take long because the charges date to 2023.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jan 22
Source:

The two cases are related, however. The firearm charge stems from the May 2023 search of his Florida residence on a warrant in his Jan. 6 case. During the search, FBI agents reportedly discovered a loaded .22-caliber rifle, rifle ammunition and multiple commercially produced explosive devices agents reported being the “same style of device Ball would later tell agents the threw at officers on January 6,” according to a detention memo filed in federal court.


No claim he did anything after being released/charges dropped except go home.

DENVERPOPS

(10,637 posts)
41. Remember when it was reported that
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jan 22

a guy took his assault weapon to a family owned pizza place, because he was told Hillary was operating a child prostitution ring in the basement???????

Well, a few weeks ago, he was flaunting? his automatic weapon at Police and they ended up shooting and killing him......

Brenda

(1,428 posts)
70. That man is dead
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jan 23
A man who opened fire at a pizza restaurant in Washington DC has been shot dead by police during a traffic stop, nine years after the incident made the "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory famous.

Edgar Maddison Welch made headlines in 2016 when he drove from North Carolina to pursue bogus claims that the Comet Ping Pong restaurant was the nexus of a child sex ring linked to Hillary Clinton's inner circle.

He served four years in prison for the shooting, before being released in March 2020.

Welch, now 36, died from his wounds caused by two police officers who fired at him after he pulled out a handgun during a traffic stop in Kannapolis, North Carolina, on 4 January, officials said on Thursday.


1.9.25

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8y007lj68o

Ocelot II

(122,615 posts)
6. Not if you commit a new one.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jan 22

He was pardoned for his Jan. 6 crime but not for subsequently being a felon in possession of a firearm, which he was at the time the warrant was issued.

Baitball Blogger

(49,001 posts)
8. I must have read it wrong. I thought he was arrested because he purchased a weapon when he was a felon.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:04 PM
Jan 22

Or is it that he purchased the gun improperly?

Ocelot II

(122,615 posts)
12. He was already a felon as the result of crimes he committed before 1/6.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:10 PM
Jan 22
Online federal court records of Ball’s indictment show he was charged with possession of a firearm and ammunition by a convicted felon on Aug. 6, 2024, listing his past convictions as domestic violence battery by strangulation in 2017 and then resisting law enforcement with violence and battery on law enforcement officer, both in 2021. The arrest warrant filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida was issued on the same day as the indictment, and now notes that Ball was arrested on Jan. 22, 2025. He has not yet entered a plea.

Trump’s pardons and commutations, as broad as they were, offer Ball no protection here for these gun charges stemming from a separate indictment. Similarly, any new crimes committed by other Jan. 6 rioters would result in new charges and arrests, and they would have no shield from prosecution.
https://www.mediaite.com/crime/florida-man-whose-jan-6-case-was-dismissed-after-trump-pardons-gets-arrested-one-day-later-for-gun-charges/

GoCubsGo

(33,404 posts)
9. It only removes the Jan. 6-related convictions.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jan 22

It doesn't give them a "Get Out of Jail Free" card. A lot of these assholes committed crimes before the insurrection, and most of them will commit other crimes once they're out of prison. Trump's pardon does not apply there.

whopis01

(3,778 posts)
48. It does not remove the Jan. 6-related convictions.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:05 PM
Jan 22

It removes the punishment, but not the conviction.

Anyone who was convicted of a felony and later pardoned is still a felon. The conviction still stands.

It is weird and confusing - but this is how it works. A pardon is not a declaration of innocence, it is an act of mercy. It is an executive action, not a judicial action.

Grins

(8,011 posts)
30. No! It CONFIRMS the conviction.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jan 22

Accepting a pardon is accepting guilt for the charges.

It is a reason why those convicted will refuse a pardon if they are fighting the conviction; accepting a pardon makes that moot and any appeal is over.

Igel

(36,515 posts)
56. That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jan 22

In early December when Trump said he'd pardon the J6 folk, the Biden-Harris DOJ said (citing SCOTUS) that acceptance would be an admission of guilt.

Then when Biden pardoned his family and various people on the J6 committee and witnesses he said explicitly that accepting them was no admission of guilt. And a lot of people said that Biden was right and SCOTUS was way off base and nobody, but nobody, should take accepting the pardon as an admission of guilt.

So there you go. Do you want SCOTUS/DOJ's or President Biden's take?

whopis01

(3,778 posts)
47. No. A pardon does not remove the conviction.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jan 22

A pardon is considered and act of mercy, not a declaration of innocence.

It is weird - and the writings around it are confusing - but a pardon does not remove a conviction.

FSogol

(47,114 posts)
69. Exactly, every state has a different process for getitng voting and gun ownership rights back.
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jan 23

Those idiots think they are invincible and won't follow the proper process.

This clown is just the first of many.

Judi Lynn

(162,815 posts)
14. From 2023: Florida man charged with setting off explosive device in Capitol tunnel during Jan. 6 riot
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jan 22

NBC Universal
Ryan J. Reilly
Updated May 3, 2023 at 12:02 AM

WASHINGTON — The FBI on Tuesday arrested a Florida man who federal authorities say set off an explosive device in a Capitol tunnel during a fierce battle between Trump supporters and law enforcement officers on Jan. 6.

Daniel Ball of Homosassa is charged with 12 counts, including assaulting, resisting or impeding officers with a deadly or dangerous weapon; using an explosive to commit any felony; and obstruction of law enforcement during a civil disorder.

He is the only Jan. 6 defendant charged with setting off an explosive device during the attack on the Capitol.

Authorities say Ball, 38, "worked with other rioters to violently push against fully uniformed police officers attempting to keep individuals out of the Capitol Building" and then "threw an explosive device into the entranceway."

Several officers suffered effects from the explosion, the FBI said. One described “hearing impairment lasting months”; another described the pain of his ears ringing as a 10/10 on the pain scale and said that he temporarily lost his hearing and that his hearing was affected for at least two days. Another officer reported ringing in the ears for nearly three hours, while another said the ringing lasted far into the next day, according to the FBI.

More:
https://www.aol.com/news/florida-man-charged-setting-off-032919377.html

So sad. In his portrait, he looks like such a bright, good person!

Mike 03

(18,005 posts)
15. Oh, you just wait.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jan 22

I wish there were an online casino where we could bet on how long until the first:

Barricade situation
Arrest for transporting a cache of weapons and explosives
Domestic homicide
Murder-suicide
Mass shooting

involving a pardoned or commuted J6er.

We will have to wait hours or days, not weeks or even months or years.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,219 posts)
32. Can't think of his name right now...
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jan 22

Maybe the head of the Proud Boys? Stuart Rhoads? Anyhow, his former wife and kids are now scared as hell that he's out. She said he was violent before this, and I'll bet he's worse now.

Like most folks here, I've never been a person who believed violence solved anything. It took the "Night Stalker" in LA before I let a gun in the house. But with these guys? Anyone who had anything to do with their arrests needs to arm themselves. If these guys start getting picked off when they show up to hurt people (and they will), they may go back into their caves. Let's cement them in this time.

Just remember..."Officer, I feared for my life". It won't be a lie.

Dem4life1970

(678 posts)
20. Remember the "soft on crime" attacks on Dukakis?
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jan 22

This is WAY worse! A felon President releasing terrorists back into America.

Midnight Writer

(23,385 posts)
23. In MAGA world, only black and brown crime exists.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jan 22

White people don't do crimes.

They make mistakes.

SWBTATTReg

(24,674 posts)
43. I too, was thinking this. This would be a good regular tracking item on DU, to track how many of these thugs
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jan 22

get rearrested, do a week by week count, post it on DU. And, when we charge these thugs w/the new criminal counts, ensure that they are state charges too, not federal so the slob pos can't pardon them then.

Bird Lady

(1,974 posts)
35. I don't understand
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:08 PM
Jan 22

Was he a felon before J6? Did he come out of prison and buy a new gun?
What happened to his pardon. Personally I have no problem with him being arrested again,
I just thought he like felonious45 was immune.

AkFemDem

(2,374 posts)
37. Yes, he was a felon prior to J6, and mistakenly decided that didnt matter anymore I guess ;-)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:18 PM
Jan 22

mdbl

(5,600 posts)
36. Anyone re-offending needs to be charged at the state or local level
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jan 22

Keep Dump's small grubby hands away from it.

GreenWave

(9,989 posts)
38. He should plead "Donald Trump"
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jan 22

How he could not commit crimes the way the Orange Antichrist does, made him want to impress his hero.

Ford_Prefect

(8,261 posts)
39. The pardon does not exculpate the charges. Rather it confirms them, and all applicable limitations post incarceration.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jan 22

The pardon means you don't do more time for the crime you committed.

It does NOT erase the charges, the findings of the court, or the recommendations of the parole officer.

moonshinegnomie

(3,026 posts)
44. every one of them should have a cop on their tail 24/7
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jan 22

if they jay walk. arrest them
speed 1 mph over the limit. ticket them
make their lives hell

Response to AkFemDem (Original post)

louis-t

(23,939 posts)
54. At this rate, he won't have time to lower food costs.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jan 22

He'll be too busy pardoning recidivists.

Dem4life1234

(2,331 posts)
55. They are psychopaths
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 05:17 PM
Jan 22

They just can't help themselves and many of these idiots will get arrested and thrown in prison, and no one will pardon them.

SunSeeker

(54,423 posts)
64. The J6 Committee posted all of the evidence it gathered.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:10 PM
Jan 22

A lot of stunning (and very disturbing) video evidence here for folks who say Trump supporters committed no violence on 1/6/21:

https://www.govinfo.gov/collection/january-6th-committee-final-report?path=/GPO/January%206th%20Committee%20Final%20Report%20and%20Supporting%20Materials%20Collection

I hope it is also archived elsewhere. Trump will try to shut down this site.

Adam Kinzinger is spreading word about the site:


Post by @adam_kinzinger
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ChazInAz

(2,828 posts)
68. Wouldn't it be terrible
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 08:36 AM
Jan 23

If some low-life scofflaw doxed all of these suffering martyrs for freedumb?
Why, the poor souls would find that they must constantly watch their backs instead of enjoying their new-found liberation.
That would be a shame.

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