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whopis01

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47. No. A pardon does not remove the conviction.

Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:02 PM

Jan 22

A pardon is considered and act of mercy, not a declaration of innocence.

It is weird - and the writings around it are confusing - but a pardon does not remove a conviction.

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J-6er arrested [View all] AkFemDem Jan 22 OP

That didn't take long. No doubt there will be more. Ocelot II Jan 22 #1

They may think they are now invincible. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #2

It didn't take long because the charges date to 2023. Igel Jan 22 #57

His past is catching up with him. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #58

Florida Man..What a surprise. n/t SheilaAnn Jan 22 #5

Next one will be from Texas, though lawlessness by white supremacists is encouraged here. Lonestarblue Jan 22 #21

Remember when it was reported that DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #41

That was definitely a FAFO situation. Ocelot II Jan 22 #42

That guy should be up for a Darwin Award. madinmaryland Jan 22 #49

Along with DENVERPOPS Jan 22 #51

That man is dead Brenda Jan 23 #70

I hope real lawmen got eyes on all the traitors DoBW Jan 22 #59

Just waiting for the avalanche. William769 Jan 22 #3

So, a pardon doesn't remove a felon conviction? Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #4

Not if you commit a new one. Ocelot II Jan 22 #6

I must have read it wrong. I thought he was arrested because he purchased a weapon when he was a felon. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #8

He was already a felon as the result of crimes he committed before 1/6. Ocelot II Jan 22 #12

He seems nice. It gives me a warm feeling to know he'll be back in the slammer. Hekate Jan 22 #18

I'm sure he won't be the last. Ocelot II Jan 22 #19

Well you know Nasruddin Jan 22 #31

Thanks. TomSlick Jan 22 #22

I thought I already replied to this. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #25

The recrudescence of felons. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 22 #28

It only removes the Jan. 6-related convictions. GoCubsGo Jan 22 #9

It does not remove the Jan. 6-related convictions. whopis01 Jan 22 #48

I'm wondering if maybe he was already a felon AkFemDem Jan 22 #10

He was. Ocelot II Jan 22 #13

No! It CONFIRMS the conviction. Grins Jan 22 #30

That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks. Igel Jan 22 #56

No. A pardon does not remove the conviction. whopis01 Jan 22 #47

1 down, 1499 to go /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #7

Some may learn the hard way sarisataka Jan 22 #11

Exactly, every state has a different process for getitng voting and gun ownership rights back. FSogol Jan 23 #69

From 2023: Florida man charged with setting off explosive device in Capitol tunnel during Jan. 6 riot Judi Lynn Jan 22 #14

Oh, you just wait. Mike 03 Jan 22 #15

Can't think of his name right now... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 22 #32

Good. Silent Type Jan 22 #16

Trump's first pre-emotive pardon no_hypocrisy Jan 22 #17

Remember the "soft on crime" attacks on Dukakis? Dem4life1970 Jan 22 #20

In MAGA world, only black and brown crime exists. Midnight Writer Jan 22 #23

YAY!!! Back where you belong, you bastard! calimary Jan 22 #24

Desatan will prob stick gold stars on his forehead & pardon him. SheltieLover Jan 22 #26

I didn't figure it would take very long... (nt) Paladin Jan 22 #27

He is truly one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive. LudwigPastorius Jan 22 #29

I was counting on this. Once a criminal always a criminal. Hope he cannot be pardoned again question everything Jan 22 #33

I too, was thinking this. This would be a good regular tracking item on DU, to track how many of these thugs SWBTATTReg Jan 22 #43

The recidivism rate will be high stollen Jan 22 #34

I don't understand Bird Lady Jan 22 #35

Yes, he was a felon prior to J6, and mistakenly decided that didnt matter anymore I guess ;-) AkFemDem Jan 22 #37

Thank you nt Bird Lady Jan 22 #40

Anyone re-offending needs to be charged at the state or local level mdbl Jan 22 #36

He should plead "Donald Trump" GreenWave Jan 22 #38

The pardon does not exculpate the charges. Rather it confirms them, and all applicable limitations post incarceration. Ford_Prefect Jan 22 #39

every one of them should have a cop on their tail 24/7 moonshinegnomie Jan 22 #44

One god damn day - (1) Nigrum Cattus Jan 22 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Jan 22 #46

Womp womp ck4829 Jan 22 #50

Maybe there are some cops that back the Blue instead of Trump. nt doc03 Jan 22 #52

So he exploded a bomb by the police and wasn't designated a terrorist uponit7771 Jan 22 #53

At this rate, he won't have time to lower food costs. louis-t Jan 22 #54

They are psychopaths Dem4life1234 Jan 22 #55

They think they have license to do whatever the F they want Bristlecone Jan 22 #60

Back to the Hoosegow! surfered Jan 22 #61

And so it begins. Katinfl Jan 22 #62

Criminals will be criminals, morons will be morons. Martin68 Jan 22 #63

The J6 Committee posted all of the evidence it gathered. SunSeeker Jan 22 #64

Daniel Charles "Willie Horton" Bell ? nt eppur_se_muova Jan 22 #65

Don't tell the convicted felon... Justice matters. Jan 23 #66

Will Trumpty pardon him? ificandream Jan 23 #67

Wouldn't it be terrible ChazInAz Jan 23 #68