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In reply to the discussion: And ANOTHER reason we Democrats lost and will continue to lose [View all]pat_k
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My "gut" (clueless as I am) said Medicare is more vulnerable that Social Security. Also based on no real knowledge, I think that many who voted for DT 1) have no actual idea what project 2025 is, and/or 2) took him at his word that it wasn't his playbook.
And on the "they're determined to usher in a fascist regime" front, few people were out there talking about the fact that J.D. Vance, Don Jr., Carlson, and Bannon all blurbed Posobiec's Unhuman's, the far right dystopian view of fascism saving the world. I don't think anything could be clearer than glorifying Pinochet and Franco, but there was pretty much not a word about it. Had there been, perhaps it wouldn't have gotten through, but who knows.
It is not my intent to argue that we aren't in for some horrific reversals of progress that has been hard won over my 65 years on the planet. Or that millions too many people voted against their own interests.
I'm not sure what I'm arguing. I guess the only thing I'm pushing back on is the notion that "they" are a monolith.
I could be out of my gourd, but, based on no real data that I can put my hands on, I think that at least 10% of the people who voted for Trump are reachable and that we need to figure out ways to reach them.
My general impression, garnered over the last 40 years, is that about a quarter of the nation is absolutely beyond reach and would be happy to return to our "roots" as a slave republic. I think there's another 10% or 15% that could conceivably be reachable, but I just have no idea how.
Anyway, I guess my point is that the "them" I am thinking when I consider how we might better connect is always the reachable 10% I believe are out there.
We began as a slave republic and in the 1960's when the democratic party chose to move toward racial reconciliation republicans could have joined us. Instead, they pursued the "Southern Strategy" putting the pursuit of power over principle. They laid first steps of this terrible path we are on.