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113. Why all the pessimism? We lost a three month and a few days campaign vs a two-year one.

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:23 AM

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Maybe acknowledge that, and we beat trump four years ago when he was an incumbent and Joe had as much time do figure out messaging as he did.

IMO the Dem bashing pessimism is inappropriate.

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And ANOTHER reason we Democrats lost and will continue to lose [View all] AverageOldGuy Thursday OP

There is zero chance any legacy media gets a nano second of my time. onecaliberal Thursday #1

Are people really that stupid? If so God help us. n/t totodeinhere Thursday #2

The answer is yes. Elessar Zappa Thursday #4

That's a interesting point about the average IQ. BlueKota Thursday #56

speaking as a teacher NJCher Thursday #85

Wow that's bad BlueKota Thursday #92

the super is heading it up but NJCher Thursday #93

average IQ of a liberal is 106, while the average IQ of a conservative is 95. Meadowoak Thursday #59

wow......you really didn't know??.... Nimble_Idea Thursday #15

nice insult!!!!!!!!!!! newdayneeded Friday #139

This message was self-deleted by its author newdayneeded Friday #140

All I know is that my IQ is higher than the average - 100 IQ is the average or mean. kerry-is-my-prez Thursday #29

You'd be wrong Fiendish Thingy Thursday #51

I do wonder how much is education or lack thereof white_wolf Thursday #52

There is, and always has been, a very strong strain of anti-intellectualism niyad Thursday #69

I am 127 BlueKota Thursday #86

"IQ" is a sloppy and almost GenThePerservering Saturday #162

Yes.They.Are. Sailingdiver Thursday #39

Belated happy 12th DUnniversary to you. niyad Thursday #68

Yes and yes. You need to understand that large segments of our Polly Hennessey Thursday #78

You don't have to be stupid not to know those words LeftInTX Thursday #88

***YES !!!*** When you're born on 1.5 base you don't have to be smart !! uponit7771 Friday #154

No, it's more about ignorance than stupidity. whathehell Friday #155

I guess tRump knew what he was doing wearing ill-fitting marybourg Thursday #3

Oh, he knows his audience like nobody does. TwilightZone Thursday #21

That's what con-men excel at. marybourg Thursday #23

He actually uses the same methods as a cult leader. kerry-is-my-prez Thursday #41

Slight correction. It was a book of hitler's speeches, not "Mein Kampf". niyad Thursday #71

You bring up a point that I've often wondered about. Abolishinist Thursday #49

Remember George W. Bush and his appeal? kerry-is-my-prez Thursday #30

I think he really marybourg Thursday #38

"Democrats speak like college professors and lawyers, not like real people." J_William_Ryan Thursday #5

Good god Rebl2 Thursday #6

That's the message I'm getting. TwilightZone Thursday #11

I don't think it's meant to be taken that way Sympthsical Friday #125

or keep saying the same thing every 2 or 4 years. Nimble_Idea Thursday #19

No, just use simpler language Qutzupalotl Thursday #26

Clinton was a master at communicating with the voters. kerry-is-my-prez Thursday #44

Yes he was. We should talk like Clinton Qutzupalotl Thursday #48

Because he grew up with them in Arkansas Blue_Roses Friday #122

"College professors and lawyers" are real people. Liberal In Texas Thursday #28

Thank you snowybirdie Friday #132

You can't discern ANY space for simpler language TheKentuckian Thursday #50

Bravo! bovine6 Thursday #82

love being told the educated are not REAL PEOPLE Skittles Thursday #80

They aren't the only real people. comradebillyboy Friday #156

LOL Skittles Friday #159

Kamala's campaign was geared to a junior high educational level. Irish_Dem Thursday #7

I got the same impression. TwilightZone Thursday #14

I am a PhD and it was not aimed at me. Irish_Dem Thursday #24

7th or 8th grade is pretty much the consensus. TwilightZone Thursday #33

The level dropped even lower I think in terms of entertainment. Irish_Dem Thursday #46

I have to wonder how much of that is long COVID, Qutzupalotl Thursday #53

I noticed it in the 80's. Irish_Dem Thursday #61

Thank you Clouds Passing Friday #104

Using YouTube videos as tutorials is not an indicator of intelligence. orange jar Thursday #57

Yes it is an indicator of intellectual functioning changes. Irish_Dem Friday #129

There was a comedian Chris Rock maybe BlueKota Thursday #70

People no longer appear to have common sense. Irish_Dem Friday #130

It's definitely a different world now BlueKota Friday #134

Yes and it will continue to change until the US is unrecognizable. Irish_Dem Friday #145

There's using language that is geared toward that education level - Ms. Toad Thursday #76

It is difficult to talk to people who have experienced decades of propaganda and misinformation. Irish_Dem Friday #127

That's what Bill and Obama did so well. radius777 Friday #152

Democrats speak like college professors and lawyers, not like real people. 2naSalit Thursday #8

"WTF is misogyny?" TwilightZone Thursday #9

you really do believe that most people can spell or define that word huh? Nimble_Idea Thursday #22

Yep, eye opening! newdayneeded Friday #143

As a matter of curiosity, to which colleges and Ph.D. programs are you niyad Thursday #10

o wurd? Nimble_Idea Thursday #25

Maybe I'm stupid BOSSHOG Thursday #12

Trump said he "loves the poorly educated". We have livetohike Thursday #13

Blame the Democratic Party instead of the people who voted for Trump valleyrogue Thursday #16

reminds me of the advice for women to avoid rape Skittles Friday #119

It is not Democrats job to ''fix'' them sammythecat Friday #141

WE ALREADY DEAL WITH THEM Skittles Friday #160

Aspirations for higher knowledge.... magicarpet Thursday #17

Several years ago I was gobsmacked to realize I was one of the hated "elites" ... Hekate Friday #100

My dad bought me Encyclopidia Brintannica too proud patriot Friday #105

OK, I give up. What is PITA? sammythecat Friday #131

Pain In The Ass MichMan Friday #135

Thanks n/t sammythecat Friday #142

From an op ed in Seattle Times today pat_k Thursday #18

Could not agree more with the op-ed. orange jar Thursday #37

The humility to change mountain grammy Thursday #54

Maybe peachpit24 Thursday #60

I didn't see anything there worth praising. Ferrets are Cool Thursday #67

Just looked at his bio. .conservative. And, "prigs and pontificators" niyad Thursday #77

Of course he is. He's a Republican for Harris. pat_k Thursday #90

As they, Rs, do a lousy job of listening to us as human beings with human concerns. Clouds Passing Friday #107

Braver Angels workshops. I highly recommend. pat_k Friday #110

once again Skittles Friday #98

Nothing pat_k Friday #108

when the GOP gets what they want Skittles Friday #111

I sure hope the "bottom" isn't that low. pat_k Friday #115

THEY LITERALLY SPELLED IT OUT IN PROJECT 2025 Skittles Friday #116

Of course. pat_k Friday #117

I'm not sure if they are reachable Skittles Friday #118

You may be right. pat_k Friday #121

why is it always US who has to amend their behavior Skittles Friday #123

Because we want to find ways to move forward. pat_k Friday #148

Spot on. dalton99a Friday #137

That's an excellent observation. And to highlight your point, that very thing is what made Clinton... SKKY Thursday #20

We can't all have the accomplishments of Bill Clinton. He was, marybourg Thursday #36

The right wing owns all the microphones. hadEnuf Thursday #27

College professors and lawyers are people, too. Sparkly Thursday #31

They're already voting for Democrats. BannonsLiver Thursday #81

There lies the rub. He is right as are all the responses. cachukis Thursday #32

Nobody ever tells those dumbasses... Dem4life1234 Thursday #34

Nor do they B.See Thursday #47

We are real people, thank you. In a moment of synchronicity though, our grandson ... Hekate Thursday #35

bless your heart Nimble_Idea Thursday #42

I love that. Sparkly Thursday #45

I had a high-school English teacher BlueKota Thursday #65

It used to take my teachers in junior and senior high a bit of time to niyad Thursday #75

Yes, I agree. Also..... pdxflyboy Thursday #40

I am a real person. Didn't realize I needed a CAPTCHA when speaking. Who knew? Solly Mack Thursday #43

I've noticed they like simple soloutions white_wolf Thursday #55

Yep. Dems need to dumb everything down to 1st grade level to match the CousinIT Thursday #58

Only if they want to win elections it seems. Fish700 Thursday #62

***Raises hand tentatively **** Prairie Gates Thursday #63

So many seem to forget that VP Harris was dropped into an... brush Thursday #64

I don't see the OP as being critical of Harris. It's about messaging in general. live love laugh Thursday #91

Still, messaging over a two-year campaign vs a three month and a few days campaign... brush Friday #109

I'm not dumbing myself down for some magat. Ferrets are Cool Thursday #66

I saw something about trump speaking at a 4th grade level ecstatic Thursday #72

HE SPEAKS ABSOLUTE GIBBERISH Skittles Friday #112

Also: How did President Obama succeed? I don't think he dumbed things down ecstatic Thursday #73

If you don't know what cis gendered is choie Thursday #74

Which goes to his point.... dropouts are not going to look anything up. live love laugh Thursday #89

and we need to be like that to appeal to them? Skittles Friday #124

I'm appalled at the state of de-education but it's "a thing." live love laugh Friday #128

HELLO Skittles Thursday #79

EXACTLY!!! niyad Thursday #84

Second that Clouds Passing Friday #144

No. Democrats speak like normal people with normal educations. The 'real' people you refer to are the ancianita Thursday #83

I get your point... oldsoldierfadingfast Thursday #87

Well that hit a nerve KentuckyWoman Thursday #94

I never thought I'd see the day where DUers defined what REAL PEOPLE are Skittles Friday #96

No it is not too much KentuckyWoman Friday #150

I've read that 54% of Americans read below a 6th grade level. NoMoreRepugs Thursday #95

We've got to remember... ECL213 Friday #97

I never get tired of this. Watching Gene Wilder's eye movements, just classic. Abolishinist Friday #99

Best ever. I will love that scene forever. 💕💕💕 Just what I needed tonight. Hekate Friday #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Friday #102

Interesting proud patriot Friday #103

I don't think those shows are a fair comparison with Fox Lulu KC Friday #106

Why all the pessimism? We lost a three month and a few days campaign vs a two-year one. brush Friday #113

TV is geared for an 11 year old vocabulary lindysalsagal Friday #114

Immigrants who voted for trump, said the like how he speaks frankly Demovictory9 Friday #120

I thought about "narcissist" vs. "egomaniac" GreenWave Friday #126

Agreed 100% oldreliable_one Friday #133

Trump ran on identity politics though. He ran on "revenge" against people who held *him* accountable ck4829 Friday #136

So Tim Walz didn't quite do it for you, right? Lulu KC Friday #158

Message auto-removed Name removed Saturday #161

Counterpoint. Confusing words are not why we lost. What is "Woke"? What is "Communism"? What is "Transgender"? ck4829 Friday #138

Don't forget Critical Race Theory and DEI tulipsandroses Friday #157

Ivy League Grads on Trump's Team. SupportSanity Friday #146

maybe if we tried playing nice, reach across the isle once and awhile. maybe buy them lunch or something. Hotler Friday #147

Great post! gulliver Friday #149

Jimmy Kimmel SoCalDavidS Friday #151

regarding "real people" Quiet Em Friday #153