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KnoxVol

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8. Well said

Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:16 PM

22 hrs ago

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It doesn’t make sense to us who live it or are intellectually curious and/or engaged in the process. But its real.

I know more than a few people who just downright didn’t like either candidate for various reasons and sat it out completely.

It’s something we are going to have to address long term if we are to be successful as a party.

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I have lifelong friends who voted for Trump. They don't pay much attention to politics [View all] Quixote1818 23 hrs ago OP

Yep happybird 23 hrs ago #1

It's a habit, a reflex. They vote Republican like the hamster hits the pedal for food. surfered 22 hrs ago #2

One can same the same for child molesters, women beaters, and rapists TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #72

There are millions of people like that out there. TwilightZone 22 hrs ago #3

Well said KnoxVol 22 hrs ago #8

One of my best friends insists that "government" is the problem. TwilightZone 22 hrs ago #14

That goes all the way back to Raygun. Ferrets are Cool 8 hrs ago #76

Yep. TwilightZone 7 hrs ago #87

This message was self-deleted by its author Ferrets are Cool 8 hrs ago #77

The intellectually curious and/or engaged are a dying breed Native 7 hrs ago #83

It all spends exactly the same for me. TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #65

Some people blame politics for their personal problems. walkingman 22 hrs ago #4

Joe Biden didn't make my wife come back. rubbersole 20 hrs ago #42

When I was growing up, one thing I heard people say Mike 03 22 hrs ago #5

My best friend is a doctor in Michigan Ontheboundry 22 hrs ago #6

I don't get the amount of ire directed at Biden jfz9580m 18 hrs ago #49

Our vision apparently isn't reality Ontheboundry 9 hrs ago #63

One thing that does concern me is how many on our side of the aisle paint the other side with a broad brush jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #64

I live in the county that borders mtg Ontheboundry 8 hrs ago #66

they can't even primary her out with a special forces Republican vet who is more moderate jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #69

Not yet...lol Ontheboundry 8 hrs ago #71

Correction Ontheboundry 8 hrs ago #73

I used to live in TN jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #81

I can get on board with this Ontheboundry 7 hrs ago #82

I think it is important that we talk to each other across all divides jfz9580m 7 hrs ago #84

Joe rogan Ontheboundry 7 hrs ago #86

Politics is all about groups jfz9580m 7 hrs ago #88

I think we missed the boat in 2016. Ontheboundry 7 hrs ago #89

Well I was tuned out in 2016 jfz9580m 6 hrs ago #90

This is the problem and I don't know the solution. yardwork 22 hrs ago #7

As I said above. We should play that game to a point. That is where politics are right now. Quixote1818 22 hrs ago #12

Good point RJ_MacReady 19 hrs ago #48

Every time they complain about something over the next 5 years which is RockRaven 22 hrs ago #9

that's my plan proud patriot 16 hrs ago #61

A "low information voter" Zorro 22 hrs ago #10

There's a problem with this, though. orange jar 22 hrs ago #16

Then they're just stupid if they can't discriminate between rhetoric and reality Zorro 22 hrs ago #20

Calling voters stupid isn't at the top of my list of things we should do to attract them to our side. onenote 8 hrs ago #67

I call 'em as I see 'em Zorro 5 hrs ago #93

A constant stream of excuses and handwaiving doesn't solve a damn thing either TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #70

Funny, I don't have any life long friends that voted for trump. Conjuay 22 hrs ago #11

Believe me, it has been difficult. I grew up with him. He was there when my brother was killed. Quixote1818 22 hrs ago #17

I'll give him one thing. It won't be slow... lame54 22 hrs ago #13

I have ended friendships over Bettie 22 hrs ago #15

My brother from Texas (PhD) told me "Biden said all Republicans are trash" crimycarny 22 hrs ago #18

This captures it. People are shockingly low info.nt jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #59

They will never see a dollar of Social Security Prairie Gates 22 hrs ago #19

We need to let them experience this JI7 22 hrs ago #21

If it were me... tgraf66 22 hrs ago #22

I have friends and family just like yours . . . AverageOldGuy 21 hrs ago #23

We are of the same mind. paleotn 20 hrs ago #28

Amen! Dem2theMax 20 hrs ago #45

Until shit really hits people hard, they won't pay attention. mymomwasright 21 hrs ago #24

And when it does hit them quakerboy 20 hrs ago #33

Mainly not themselves for sure and probably not the perps either TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #75

I don't get how anyone could expect he would suddenly be able to get anything done DeeDeeNY 21 hrs ago #25

Either they're dumb as stumps or hate the same people he does... paleotn 20 hrs ago #27

It's all about power BeneteauBum 20 hrs ago #30

I think that is where it may have actually worked in his favor that we were pointing out he would not be constrained Quixote1818 20 hrs ago #31

He was President quakerboy 20 hrs ago #36

Morons. Fuck them. paleotn 20 hrs ago #26

But they ARE bad people. NameAlreadyTaken 20 hrs ago #29

I've said it many times; lumping them all into one category is a big mistake. oldsoftie 20 hrs ago #32

He is a serial rapist. Even if he were an economic wizard. onecaliberal 20 hrs ago #38

burden of proof is on you cadoman 8 hrs ago #74

The ones they care for of course...they are merely confused or something...they are great TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #78

This is why we lose elections. NOT wanting to examine real issues. oldsoftie 5 hrs ago #92

I have not blamed a solitary soul for a damn thing THEY DIDN'T DO. TheKentuckian 1 hr ago #95

The people I know are the only examples I know. Its not that hard. oldsoftie 5 hrs ago #91

He did virtually nothing for them his first 4 years William Seger 20 hrs ago #34

Some things never change. The Roman poet Juvenal nailed it. colorado_ufo 20 hrs ago #35

He is known and his chaos is known around the globe. onecaliberal 20 hrs ago #37

I would guess the prevailing feeling with these folks is "meh, that's never gonna happen to me." calimary 20 hrs ago #39

They are irresponsible, lazy and selfish. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #40

Republicans blocked anything and everything Democrats tried to enact, even their own bills. jaxexpat 20 hrs ago #41

I agree with your take jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #43

Sorry Zorro 17 hrs ago #57

Well that is going to happen jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #58

His voters listen to what he says and take him at his 'word.' Dem2theMax 20 hrs ago #44

that's what frustrates me the most! They literally cite trump's own talking points as if they are fact. ecstatic 18 hrs ago #52

The dumbest people support him Dem4life1234 20 hrs ago #46

They won't and their friends and family will still make excuses for them. TheKentuckian 8 hrs ago #80

Well DemonGoddess 20 hrs ago #47

Democrats are turned off by clowns ecstatic 18 hrs ago #50

Well said Iris 18 hrs ago #51

They wouldn't be my friends for long, I can't stand to be around stupid people. nt yaesu 18 hrs ago #53

Sounds like they're going to get the government they deserve. nt A Clearing 18 hrs ago #54

stupid won. pansypoo53219 17 hrs ago #55

Do something for them? Freethinker65 17 hrs ago #56

Dems like Biden are the only ones who kerouac2 17 hrs ago #60

Excitement and hope of big change tends to win over stay-the-course except during economic booms andym 16 hrs ago #62

+1 onenote 8 hrs ago #68

Yep surrounded by them... MiHale 8 hrs ago #79

I have been asking myself, since before the election Alice B. 7 hrs ago #85

Those friends will pay attention after the next four years. republianmushroom 5 hrs ago #94