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sarisataka

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57. What are you comparing them to?

Reply to marble falls (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:18 AM

Sep 16

AR-15, 20 inch barrel, effective range 550m, carbine with 14 inch barrel effective to 500m

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The alleged shooter was 300-500 yards away? [View all] Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 OP

I also heard... essaynnc Sep 16 #1

Short barrels. Not overly accurate. marble falls Sep 16 #4

What are you comparing them to? sarisataka Sep 16 #57

Oh, I dunno, say a scoped hunting rifle. Effective and accurate are not the same thing. marble falls Sep 16 #71

When speaking of rifles, effective and accurate are synonymous. sarisataka Sep 16 #72

That's less than 500 yards. At 500 yards a 24 inch demosincebirth Sep 16 #78

He had an AK-47 Kaleva Sep 16 #6

Correct. When I change the firearm type, Google's answer changes: Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #13

Yes Kaleva Sep 16 #15

US Army BRM is 50-300 meters (328 yards) underpants Sep 16 #40

Making it less accurate Aviation Pro Sep 16 #54

Interesting question. According to Google * Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #8

Think this was an SKS, bigger caliber than the AR ExciteBike66 Sep 16 #9

Caliber, as in bullet diameter, is almost meaningless for this discussion sir pball Sep 16 #34

The accuracy of the AR-15 depends upong the maker, model and ammo... but Happy Hoosier Sep 16 #43

It depends on what you consider long distance sarisataka Sep 16 #48

And, it was a straight-off-the-rack, plain Jane M16A1. yagotme Sep 16 #58

Actually was a Hollywood Marine sarisataka Sep 16 #59

Yeah, I had a bad year once. Twisted my ankle pretty bad week before RR, they still sent me. yagotme Sep 16 #60

M-1 for me. 300 was rather easy. 500 was not all that difficult. Ping Tung Sep 16 #79

He had an AK-47, not an AR-15 jmowreader Sep 16 #73

AK-47? So I've heard. SharonAnn Sep 16 #80

In theory, if that distance...he would need a scope Dan Sep 16 #82

The media will milk this story for days. Lonestarblue Sep 16 #2

Yep and I was sick of it after the first hour. Bev54 Sep 16 #53

The media has been reporting that Trump wasn't in danger Kaleva Sep 16 #3

Guy probably thinks he's going to be pardoned bucolic_frolic Sep 16 #5

It was at best a foiled attempt malaise Sep 16 #7

He was waiting at the golf course hole for Trump to arrive. John1956PA Sep 16 #10

I'm not sure why most people don't ... Whiskeytide Sep 16 #67

As I understand it the SS was a hole ahead ahead of drumpf Takket Sep 16 #11

How did he know about the unscheduled golf outing? Emile Sep 16 #12

Excellent question. Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #14

Just follow the motorcade jmbar2 Sep 16 #16

He sure as shit wasn't out on the campaign trail,nah....keep golfing Trump,it will be over soon! Bengus81 Sep 16 #22

He campaigns like he's still on the TV show jmbar2 Sep 16 #26

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He was there 12 hours. Emile Sep 16 #84

If you know what town he's in, you know he's going to the golf course. jmbar2 Sep 16 #85

So he didn't follow the motorcade and knew for Emile Sep 16 #86

Trump golfs every day jmbar2 Sep 16 #87

So? Emile Sep 16 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 16 #93

Trump plays almost every Sunday he's there. underpants Sep 16 #39

It was a Sunday and not raining. Attilatheblond Sep 16 #77

He ate a lot of carrots to get such great peepers! Omnipresent Sep 16 #17

Didn't Trumps buddies over at CNN announce he was "leaving" Mar-a-logo? Bengus81 Sep 16 #18

Routh may not have even seen tfg yet. duncang Sep 16 #19

Hitting out to 500 meters with optics is not difficult Abnredleg Sep 16 #20

I wonder if whomever supplied the rifle claimed that it was sighted in--had he ever fired it? John Farmer Sep 16 #69

There is a fairly big difference.... Happy Hoosier Sep 16 #76

Doesn't someone have to actually fire a shot to be a 'shooter'? Captain Stern Sep 16 #21

Precisely n/t malaise Sep 16 #25

No. TwilightZone Sep 16 #30

Depends on the context. John1956PA Sep 16 #46

I get your point, but the definition you provided confirms what I said, doesn't it? Captain Stern Sep 16 #66

Didn't the shooter assume Trump would be moving closer to him? Irish_Dem Sep 16 #23

The 300-500 could have been from where the shooter was to the green Trump LizBeth Sep 16 #47

Yes. This is a logical assumption. Irish_Dem Sep 16 #90

How would we know this? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #50

Crime scene analysis Irish_Dem Sep 16 #89

The rifle he had was also the wrong gun to use obamanut2012 Sep 16 #24

300 to 500 meters is is not long range Abnredleg Sep 16 #28

Heck DeepWinter Sep 16 #35

US Army BRM is from 50-300 meters (328 yards). You're right this isn't extremely far underpants Sep 16 #36

2000m is an exceptionally long range shot sir pball Sep 16 #42

2000 ***METERS*** is more than a mile and typical snipers shoot in 3 - 600 meter range (google results) uponit7771 Sep 16 #64

Current record is 3,800 meters EX500rider Sep 16 #92

If his intent was assassination, he was probably waiting for Trump to get closer. Martin Eden Sep 16 #27

Trump traveled from Mar-a-Lago to the golf course in West Palm Beach. John1956PA Sep 16 #31

That's what I thought too underpants Sep 16 #37

Regarding the seemingly illogical layout of the golf course Martin Eden Sep 16 #41

Does he have a food taster? GreenWave Sep 16 #29

Trump wasn't threatened. DJ Porkchop Sep 16 #32

Didn't he have a scope? hlthe2b Sep 16 #33

It's been reported that he did. underpants Sep 16 #38

It depends on the equipment (range finder, etc) and the skill level of the shooter. Practice, practice, practice surfered Sep 16 #45

I would consider 300 on the low end of medium range sarisataka Sep 16 #49

Seems lone wolves do exist. Let's see what this guy has to say. Is he really a lone wolf nut or... brush Sep 16 #51

Wondering what happened to the two people shooting at each other originally reported? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #52

That initial report was wrong DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 16 #56

Really? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 16 #75

500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile Wiz Imp Sep 16 #55

The wonders of modern technology sarisataka Sep 16 #61

TSF was about 3-500 yards away when gunman was discovered by SS, yagotme Sep 16 #62

You're not alone. Oopsie Daisy Sep 16 #68

From another post I just read: Wiz Imp Sep 16 #83

Was shooter planning on firing from 500 yards, or was he set up for when trump got closer? Think it's latter. Silent Type Sep 16 #63

right, 500 meters is a over a quarter mile away and even with best equipment that's a hard shot in populated area uponit7771 Sep 16 #65

How populated is a golf course? sarisataka Sep 16 #70

He wasn't a shooter Johnny2X2X Sep 16 #74

He was at the next hole, laying in wait. 300-500 yards is typical in golf courses. TheBlackAdder Sep 16 #81

From everything I've heard about the layout and the timeline ... Straw Man Sep 16 #91

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