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empedocles

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111. Not pander, but allies are better than enemies or loose cannons.

Reply to ReformedGOPer (Reply #104)

Mon Apr 6, 2020, 07:41 AM

Apr 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Tell me again why Biden has to reach out to Sanders voters? [View all] mcar Mar 2020 OP

Because we need as many of them as possible to vote for Biden. MineralMan Mar 2020 #1

Everyone else's supporters simply move to the leader mcar Mar 2020 #8

Exactly..it seems everyone else's supporters followed their candidates lead - asiliveandbreathe Mar 2020 #25

How about to win in November bottomofthehill Mar 2020 #41

Not really democrattotheend Mar 2020 #62

I recall zero. LisaM Apr 2020 #130

but just like last time, they demand to be begged and courted treestar Mar 2020 #84

+1 rampartc Mar 2020 #11

Does lecturing Sanders to drop out count as 'alienating them'? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #12

.. MineralMan Mar 2020 #51

Thank you MineralMan. Perfect response. KPN Mar 2020 #35

Cannot take the chance Bev54 Mar 2020 #2

WE, THE PEOPLE will turn out Cary Mar 2020 #10

Radicals? notinkansas Apr 2020 #131

Anyone who right now is considering voting for Trump or staying at home if they can't have Bernie StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #85

Dems need all the help we can get empedocles Mar 2020 #3

HRC pandered to him, even had a night at the convention devoted ReformedGOPer Apr 2020 #104

Not pander, but allies are better than enemies or loose cannons. empedocles Apr 2020 #111

Do you like losing? jalan48 Mar 2020 #4

No, do you? mcar Mar 2020 #9

Blaming the voters is a losing strategy. jalan48 Mar 2020 #33

Why? The youth "voters" are one of the reasons Bernie is losing LakeArenal Mar 2020 #55

Shaming and blaming others for our losses just shows weakness. If Biden is our candidate then jalan48 Mar 2020 #56

u said quote: do you like losing? well that's what bernie is doing these days nt msongs Mar 2020 #59

I'm looking forward to the last debate. One on one should be interesting. jalan48 Mar 2020 #63

There already was a one-on-one debate ... NanceGreggs Apr 2020 #105

That Does Seem To Be About All He Can Do, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #106

You need to compare the date of the OP and the post dates with the debate schedule. jalan48 Apr 2020 #116

The only one shaming any one are Bernie and LakeArenal Mar 2020 #72

Hey-Biden needs Bernie's supporters to vote for him. What do you think would be an effective jalan48 Mar 2020 #73

Bernie would have needed Biden's supporters too mcar Mar 2020 #75

It is what it is. Either we pull together or we don't. Blaming Sanders and his supporters is jalan48 Mar 2020 #79

I'm not on the campaign team. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #88

Joe would be horrified by that. He would NOT want us to shut out Bernie supporters! hedda_foil Mar 2020 #89

I have no problem shaming some people. lapucelle Apr 2020 #107

Some People Do Need To Be Ashamed Of Themselves, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #109

Nothing will endear these people to vote for Biden, if Trump doesn't already do it. Nothing. LizBeth Mar 2020 #81

Sanders clearly feels no need to reach out to anyone who doesn't just agree with him on everything. ehrnst Apr 2020 #117

That number will go down as we get closer Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5

Agree. Last survey I saw it was 30%. Now it's 19%. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #13

I hope you are correct mcar Mar 2020 #17

The exact numbers are in dispute given the difficulty in determining something such as this... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #28

Are you sure about that? Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #30

People that use that are doing so only to mislead you. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #65

Ah, ok, I stand corrected. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #66

25% included crossover trump supporters (non dems) Locrian Mar 2020 #37

Huh? No. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #64

Just as 40% of Hillary voters in June 2008 said they would not support Obama. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #38

The percentage was much higher than 12%. The 12% number is for BS to Trump voters specifically. lapucelle Mar 2020 #50

Ok, I stand corrected. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #52

I have always said that the radical left makes a lot of noise Cary Mar 2020 #6

I Expect Biden Will Make All Reasonable Efforts To Win Them Over... smb Mar 2020 #7

I think he will too mcar Mar 2020 #14

Even if that 19% figure is representative, 81% of his supporters will vote for Biden. pampango Mar 2020 #15

Coming together means coming together - it takes both sides mcar Mar 2020 #19

Indeed. n/t pampango Mar 2020 #34

It is the role of the 1st place finisher to reach out to supporters of the 2nd place finisher, thesquanderer Mar 2020 #39

Nobody reached out to me mcar Mar 2020 #45

re: "a % of them still won't vote, or vote against Democrats." thesquanderer Mar 2020 #70

Not quite the same situation dansolo Mar 2020 #93

Like Carville said last night.."the Democratic voters during the primary asiliveandbreathe Mar 2020 #16

Krystal Ball mcar Mar 2020 #18

Krystal Ball seems to have a cracked crystal ball. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #26

If that's true Turbineguy Mar 2020 #20

It's discouraging mcar Mar 2020 #21

Even after giving sanders everything he wanted in platform look at what happened last time Gothmog Mar 2020 #22

This. mcar Mar 2020 #46

Exit poll showed 16% of Hillary supporters who voted in November 2008 voted for McCain thesquanderer Mar 2020 #68

And Cornell West, one of the people Bernie appointed to shape that platform Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #80

That's 81% who will or might or are undecided. Qutzupalotl Mar 2020 #23

Agreed mcar Mar 2020 #47

Biden does not have to reach out to Bernie's supporters yet, Sloumeau Mar 2020 #24

Because that means 81% will or are persuadable? TDale313 Mar 2020 #27

So I read "81% of Sanders voters say the WILL (or probably WILL) vote for the Dem nominee". CincyDem Mar 2020 #29

One would think they'd move to the nominee anyway mcar Mar 2020 #48

Wow them with platform and policy, inform them about Trump bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #31

Yes mcar Mar 2020 #49

Do you have a calculator nearby? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #32

The tweet you quote in the op IS the answer to the question you posed. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2020 #36

Not Surprised, no one should they where never Democratics ace3csusm Mar 2020 #40

A hungry person refusing half a loaf of bread. Is there a word for that? oasis Mar 2020 #42

I take them at their word. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #43

We'll see where we actually end up. Berniesbiggestfan Mar 2020 #44

Because Biden is a mature, responsible, compassionate leader who understands... TygrBright Mar 2020 #53

Biden's had the easiest primary in history jimfields33 Mar 2020 #54

... mcar Mar 2020 #78

He'll get the young voters on his own merit MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #82

that does not seem true; he was said to be dead in the water less than treestar Mar 2020 #86

I'm a Biden supporter, but he had the great fortune to be running against a very weak field Midwestern Democrat Mar 2020 #94

Did you forget about Iowa, NH, and Nevada? and all the Cha Mar 2020 #87

Bernie just doesn't appeal to that many people. Can you handle it? PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #129

some of them are giving the Larouche-ites a run for their money samir.g Mar 2020 #57

Because they have good ideas and are a part of us? randr Mar 2020 #58

Anyone who does not believe in party unity deserves to lose in November. LonePirate Mar 2020 #60

I assume he'd like their votes democrattotheend Mar 2020 #61

To show empathy. There's a large contingent of people who are hurting. Politicub Mar 2020 #67

What concerns me is ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #69

Good thing they are a dying breed. nt William769 Mar 2020 #71

Because he won't beat Trump without them budkin Mar 2020 #74

Talk about cutting off your avebury Mar 2020 #76

So he can defeat Donald Trump? kentuck Mar 2020 #77

That doesn't make sense.. why vote in the primary Cha Mar 2020 #83

If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage Gothmog Mar 2020 #90

How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #91

We don't need to alienate them. But we don't need to pander to them, either. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #92

Agreed mcar Mar 2020 #96

Another day, another ignore. Jokerman Mar 2020 #95

The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 were racists non-democrats who hated Obama Gothmog Apr 2020 #97

Because Party Unity is a good thing. Iggo Apr 2020 #98

I'm sick and tired of the whiny asses who lack a perception of reality la-trucker Apr 2020 #99

The way I read that is.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #100

Because not everyone lacks the ability to subtract 19 from 100. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #101

Thing is, and reason Biden is best of the two, he will reach out. Hoyt Apr 2020 #102

Just a few short weeks ago, it was "vote blue no matter who" Grokenstein Apr 2020 #103

I saw it so many times, here and elsewhere mcar Apr 2020 #112

Why my first choice is Bernie... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #108

It Does Not Matter What He Says, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #110

True enough... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #118

Quite The Contrary, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #119

I disagree with your assumption. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #120

Then He Or She Might As Well Be Up On A Soap-Box In Bughouse Square, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #121

I haven't seen any nasty "Biden Bros" mcar Apr 2020 #113

The 'Mirror Game' Is An Ancient Wheeze, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #114

Ancient Wheeze! mcar Apr 2020 #115

Bernie Sanders is out. And the insincere praise begins. Gothmog Apr 2020 #122

It Feels So Strange, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #123

For this thread Gothmog Apr 2020 #132

Rubin is right: let's not get carried away mcar Apr 2020 #125

Yeah... their "story lines".. We know what happened.. Cha Apr 2020 #134

Did you see the movie "2016"? Remember how that ends?? SKKY Apr 2020 #124

Yes, it ended with a bunch of self-entitled so-called progressives* mcar Apr 2020 #127

michigan voters pamdb Apr 2020 #126

Enough in MI, WI and PA mcar Apr 2020 #128

To win. H2O Man Apr 2020 #133

Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist Gothmog Apr 2020 #135

He always had that ceiling mcar Apr 2020 #136