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The Magistrate

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106. That Does Seem To Be About All He Can Do, Ma'am

Sun Apr 5, 2020, 11:52 PM

Apr 2020

He hardly even knows what his own plans are, let alone how they might be executed:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=696921

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Tell me again why Biden has to reach out to Sanders voters? [View all] mcar Mar 2020 OP

Because we need as many of them as possible to vote for Biden. MineralMan Mar 2020 #1

Everyone else's supporters simply move to the leader mcar Mar 2020 #8

Exactly..it seems everyone else's supporters followed their candidates lead - asiliveandbreathe Mar 2020 #25

How about to win in November bottomofthehill Mar 2020 #41

Not really democrattotheend Mar 2020 #62

I recall zero. LisaM Apr 2020 #130

but just like last time, they demand to be begged and courted treestar Mar 2020 #84

+1 rampartc Mar 2020 #11

Does lecturing Sanders to drop out count as 'alienating them'? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #12

.. MineralMan Mar 2020 #51

Thank you MineralMan. Perfect response. KPN Mar 2020 #35

Cannot take the chance Bev54 Mar 2020 #2

WE, THE PEOPLE will turn out Cary Mar 2020 #10

Radicals? notinkansas Apr 2020 #131

Anyone who right now is considering voting for Trump or staying at home if they can't have Bernie StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #85

Dems need all the help we can get empedocles Mar 2020 #3

HRC pandered to him, even had a night at the convention devoted ReformedGOPer Apr 2020 #104

Not pander, but allies are better than enemies or loose cannons. empedocles Apr 2020 #111

Do you like losing? jalan48 Mar 2020 #4

No, do you? mcar Mar 2020 #9

Blaming the voters is a losing strategy. jalan48 Mar 2020 #33

Why? The youth "voters" are one of the reasons Bernie is losing LakeArenal Mar 2020 #55

Shaming and blaming others for our losses just shows weakness. If Biden is our candidate then jalan48 Mar 2020 #56

u said quote: do you like losing? well that's what bernie is doing these days nt msongs Mar 2020 #59

I'm looking forward to the last debate. One on one should be interesting. jalan48 Mar 2020 #63

There already was a one-on-one debate ... NanceGreggs Apr 2020 #105

That Does Seem To Be About All He Can Do, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #106

You need to compare the date of the OP and the post dates with the debate schedule. jalan48 Apr 2020 #116

The only one shaming any one are Bernie and LakeArenal Mar 2020 #72

Hey-Biden needs Bernie's supporters to vote for him. What do you think would be an effective jalan48 Mar 2020 #73

Bernie would have needed Biden's supporters too mcar Mar 2020 #75

It is what it is. Either we pull together or we don't. Blaming Sanders and his supporters is jalan48 Mar 2020 #79

I'm not on the campaign team. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #88

Joe would be horrified by that. He would NOT want us to shut out Bernie supporters! hedda_foil Mar 2020 #89

I have no problem shaming some people. lapucelle Apr 2020 #107

Some People Do Need To Be Ashamed Of Themselves, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #109

Nothing will endear these people to vote for Biden, if Trump doesn't already do it. Nothing. LizBeth Mar 2020 #81

Sanders clearly feels no need to reach out to anyone who doesn't just agree with him on everything. ehrnst Apr 2020 #117

That number will go down as we get closer Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5

Agree. Last survey I saw it was 30%. Now it's 19%. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #13

I hope you are correct mcar Mar 2020 #17

The exact numbers are in dispute given the difficulty in determining something such as this... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #28

Are you sure about that? Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #30

People that use that are doing so only to mislead you. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #65

Ah, ok, I stand corrected. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #66

25% included crossover trump supporters (non dems) Locrian Mar 2020 #37

Huh? No. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #64

Just as 40% of Hillary voters in June 2008 said they would not support Obama. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #38

The percentage was much higher than 12%. The 12% number is for BS to Trump voters specifically. lapucelle Mar 2020 #50

Ok, I stand corrected. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #52

I have always said that the radical left makes a lot of noise Cary Mar 2020 #6

I Expect Biden Will Make All Reasonable Efforts To Win Them Over... smb Mar 2020 #7

I think he will too mcar Mar 2020 #14

Even if that 19% figure is representative, 81% of his supporters will vote for Biden. pampango Mar 2020 #15

Coming together means coming together - it takes both sides mcar Mar 2020 #19

Indeed. n/t pampango Mar 2020 #34

It is the role of the 1st place finisher to reach out to supporters of the 2nd place finisher, thesquanderer Mar 2020 #39

Nobody reached out to me mcar Mar 2020 #45

re: "a % of them still won't vote, or vote against Democrats." thesquanderer Mar 2020 #70

Not quite the same situation dansolo Mar 2020 #93

Like Carville said last night.."the Democratic voters during the primary asiliveandbreathe Mar 2020 #16

Krystal Ball mcar Mar 2020 #18

Krystal Ball seems to have a cracked crystal ball. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #26

If that's true Turbineguy Mar 2020 #20

It's discouraging mcar Mar 2020 #21

Even after giving sanders everything he wanted in platform look at what happened last time Gothmog Mar 2020 #22

This. mcar Mar 2020 #46

Exit poll showed 16% of Hillary supporters who voted in November 2008 voted for McCain thesquanderer Mar 2020 #68

And Cornell West, one of the people Bernie appointed to shape that platform Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #80

That's 81% who will or might or are undecided. Qutzupalotl Mar 2020 #23

Agreed mcar Mar 2020 #47

Biden does not have to reach out to Bernie's supporters yet, Sloumeau Mar 2020 #24

Because that means 81% will or are persuadable? TDale313 Mar 2020 #27

So I read "81% of Sanders voters say the WILL (or probably WILL) vote for the Dem nominee". CincyDem Mar 2020 #29

One would think they'd move to the nominee anyway mcar Mar 2020 #48

Wow them with platform and policy, inform them about Trump bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #31

Yes mcar Mar 2020 #49

Do you have a calculator nearby? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #32

The tweet you quote in the op IS the answer to the question you posed. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2020 #36

Not Surprised, no one should they where never Democratics ace3csusm Mar 2020 #40

A hungry person refusing half a loaf of bread. Is there a word for that? oasis Mar 2020 #42

I take them at their word. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #43

We'll see where we actually end up. Berniesbiggestfan Mar 2020 #44

Because Biden is a mature, responsible, compassionate leader who understands... TygrBright Mar 2020 #53

Biden's had the easiest primary in history jimfields33 Mar 2020 #54

... mcar Mar 2020 #78

He'll get the young voters on his own merit MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #82

that does not seem true; he was said to be dead in the water less than treestar Mar 2020 #86

I'm a Biden supporter, but he had the great fortune to be running against a very weak field Midwestern Democrat Mar 2020 #94

Did you forget about Iowa, NH, and Nevada? and all the Cha Mar 2020 #87

Bernie just doesn't appeal to that many people. Can you handle it? PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #129

some of them are giving the Larouche-ites a run for their money samir.g Mar 2020 #57

Because they have good ideas and are a part of us? randr Mar 2020 #58

Anyone who does not believe in party unity deserves to lose in November. LonePirate Mar 2020 #60

I assume he'd like their votes democrattotheend Mar 2020 #61

To show empathy. There's a large contingent of people who are hurting. Politicub Mar 2020 #67

What concerns me is ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #69

Good thing they are a dying breed. nt William769 Mar 2020 #71

Because he won't beat Trump without them budkin Mar 2020 #74

Talk about cutting off your avebury Mar 2020 #76

So he can defeat Donald Trump? kentuck Mar 2020 #77

That doesn't make sense.. why vote in the primary Cha Mar 2020 #83

If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage Gothmog Mar 2020 #90

How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #91

We don't need to alienate them. But we don't need to pander to them, either. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #92

Agreed mcar Mar 2020 #96

Another day, another ignore. Jokerman Mar 2020 #95

The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 were racists non-democrats who hated Obama Gothmog Apr 2020 #97

Because Party Unity is a good thing. Iggo Apr 2020 #98

I'm sick and tired of the whiny asses who lack a perception of reality la-trucker Apr 2020 #99

The way I read that is.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #100

Because not everyone lacks the ability to subtract 19 from 100. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2020 #101

Thing is, and reason Biden is best of the two, he will reach out. Hoyt Apr 2020 #102

Just a few short weeks ago, it was "vote blue no matter who" Grokenstein Apr 2020 #103

I saw it so many times, here and elsewhere mcar Apr 2020 #112

Why my first choice is Bernie... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #108

It Does Not Matter What He Says, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #110

True enough... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #118

Quite The Contrary, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #119

I disagree with your assumption. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #120

Then He Or She Might As Well Be Up On A Soap-Box In Bughouse Square, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #121

I haven't seen any nasty "Biden Bros" mcar Apr 2020 #113

The 'Mirror Game' Is An Ancient Wheeze, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #114

Ancient Wheeze! mcar Apr 2020 #115

Bernie Sanders is out. And the insincere praise begins. Gothmog Apr 2020 #122

It Feels So Strange, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #123

For this thread Gothmog Apr 2020 #132

Rubin is right: let's not get carried away mcar Apr 2020 #125

Yeah... their "story lines".. We know what happened.. Cha Apr 2020 #134

Did you see the movie "2016"? Remember how that ends?? SKKY Apr 2020 #124

Yes, it ended with a bunch of self-entitled so-called progressives* mcar Apr 2020 #127

michigan voters pamdb Apr 2020 #126

Enough in MI, WI and PA mcar Apr 2020 #128

To win. H2O Man Apr 2020 #133

Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist Gothmog Apr 2020 #135

He always had that ceiling mcar Apr 2020 #136