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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Tell me again why Biden has to reach out to Sanders voters? [View all]Gothmog
(154,214 posts)97. The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 were racists non-democrats who hated Obama
The facts are that 25% of sanders supporters helped to elect trump by either voting for trump, voting for a third party candidate like Stein (who like sanders was supported by Russia) or stayed home
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This is based on the Cooperative Congressional Election survey https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
That is according to the data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study a massive election survey of around 50,000 people. (For perspective, a run-of-the-mill survey measuring Trump's job approval right now has a sample of 800 to 1,500.)
It appears that the sanders supporters who voted for trump where (I) not really Democrats, (ii) did not like President Obama and (iiii) were racists
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Party seems to have had something to do with it Sanders-Trump voters were much less likely than Sanders-Clinton or Sanders-third party voters to have been Democrats. Likewise, approval of President Barack Obama appears to be related Sanders-Trump voters approved of Obama much less than other Sanders primary voters.
And then there is race. Nearly half of Sanders-Trump voters disagree with the idea that "white people have advantages."
This tracks with broader observations about election 2016 for example, as I wrote last week, in general, the larger a state's general-election Trump vote, the less likely its residents are to perceive a lot of discrimination in the world, according to data from the Public Religion Research Institute. And another postelection study co-authored by Schaffner found a "relatively strong indication that racism and sexism were more important in 2016 than they had been in previous elections."
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And then there is race. Nearly half of Sanders-Trump voters disagree with the idea that "white people have advantages."
Link to tweet
This tracks with broader observations about election 2016 for example, as I wrote last week, in general, the larger a state's general-election Trump vote, the less likely its residents are to perceive a lot of discrimination in the world, according to data from the Public Religion Research Institute. And another postelection study co-authored by Schaffner found a "relatively strong indication that racism and sexism were more important in 2016 than they had been in previous elections."
These are voters that the Democratic Party should not be courting or counting on. There is nothing that Biden or the party is going to do to win over these voters. Appeasing these voters will only alienate the base of the party such as voters who are proud to be Democrats, who approve of President Obama and who are not racists.
I do not feel like appeasing these voters. The only thing that will make these voters happy is the party making sanders the nominee over the objections of 70% of the party
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Exactly..it seems everyone else's supporters followed their candidates lead -
asiliveandbreathe
Mar 2020
#25
Anyone who right now is considering voting for Trump or staying at home if they can't have Bernie
StarfishSaver
Mar 2020
#85
Shaming and blaming others for our losses just shows weakness. If Biden is our candidate then
jalan48
Mar 2020
#56
u said quote: do you like losing? well that's what bernie is doing these days nt
msongs
Mar 2020
#59
You need to compare the date of the OP and the post dates with the debate schedule.
jalan48
Apr 2020
#116
Hey-Biden needs Bernie's supporters to vote for him. What do you think would be an effective
jalan48
Mar 2020
#73
It is what it is. Either we pull together or we don't. Blaming Sanders and his supporters is
jalan48
Mar 2020
#79
Joe would be horrified by that. He would NOT want us to shut out Bernie supporters!
hedda_foil
Mar 2020
#89
Nothing will endear these people to vote for Biden, if Trump doesn't already do it. Nothing.
LizBeth
Mar 2020
#81
Sanders clearly feels no need to reach out to anyone who doesn't just agree with him on everything.
ehrnst
Apr 2020
#117
The exact numbers are in dispute given the difficulty in determining something such as this...
W_HAMILTON
Mar 2020
#28
Just as 40% of Hillary voters in June 2008 said they would not support Obama.
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#38
The percentage was much higher than 12%. The 12% number is for BS to Trump voters specifically.
lapucelle
Mar 2020
#50
Even if that 19% figure is representative, 81% of his supporters will vote for Biden.
pampango
Mar 2020
#15
It is the role of the 1st place finisher to reach out to supporters of the 2nd place finisher,
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#39
Like Carville said last night.."the Democratic voters during the primary
asiliveandbreathe
Mar 2020
#16
Even after giving sanders everything he wanted in platform look at what happened last time
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#22
Exit poll showed 16% of Hillary supporters who voted in November 2008 voted for McCain
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#68
And Cornell West, one of the people Bernie appointed to shape that platform
Docreed2003
Mar 2020
#80
So I read "81% of Sanders voters say the WILL (or probably WILL) vote for the Dem nominee".
CincyDem
Mar 2020
#29
The tweet you quote in the op IS the answer to the question you posed. n/t
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#36
Because Biden is a mature, responsible, compassionate leader who understands...
TygrBright
Mar 2020
#53
I'm a Biden supporter, but he had the great fortune to be running against a very weak field
Midwestern Democrat
Mar 2020
#94
We don't need to alienate them. But we don't need to pander to them, either.
Vivienne235729
Mar 2020
#92
The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 were racists non-democrats who hated Obama
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#97
Then He Or She Might As Well Be Up On A Soap-Box In Bughouse Square, Sir
The Magistrate
Apr 2020
#121
Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#135