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Gothmog

(154,220 posts)
81. How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:54 PM
Apr 2020

sanders was appealing only to 30% of the party and after South Carolina the rest of the party moved to Joe Biden to stop sanders.



Rarely has political momentum flipped as quickly as it did in the first half of March, as Mr. Sanders lost serious ground to Mr. Biden before the coronavirus slowed their race. There are well-known reasons for the shift: Moderate candidates like Mr. Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota rallied around Mr. Biden. He enjoyed demographic advantages, particularly with black voters. And turnout among young voters and liberal nonvoters did not surge, failing to reshape the electorate as Mr. Sanders had hoped.

But beyond ideology, race and turnout, a chief reason for Mr. Biden’s success has little to do with his candidacy. He became a vehicle for Democrats like Ms. King who were supporting other candidates but found the prospect of Mr. Sanders and his calls for political revolution so distasteful that they put aside misgivings about Mr. Biden and backed him instead.

In phone interviews, dozens of Democrats, mostly aged 50 and over, who live in key March primary states like Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan and Florida, said that Mr. Biden’s appeal went beyond his case for beating President Trump. It was his chances of overtaking Mr. Sanders, the only candidate in the vast Democratic field they found objectionable for reasons personal and political.....

These voters’ willingness to unite against Mr. Sanders helped Democratic Party leaders stave off his insurgent campaign and has made Mr. Biden the all-but-certain Democratic nominee. The convergence behind Mr. Biden also highlights a critical difference between this year’s primary and what happened to the Republican Party in 2016. Four years ago, establishment Republicans were openly skeptical of Mr. Trump after his victories in early primary states, but a fractured field and split primary vote allowed him to amass an insurmountable delegate lead, reshaping the party in the process.....

Ahead of Mr. Sanders’s presidential run in 2020, his campaign did not concern itself with smoothing tensions among voters who supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016. He did not seek the endorsements of many party leaders, who were always unlikely to back him, but could have been swayed from being openly antagonistic to ambivalent.

As a result, after a strong finish in Iowa and wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, Mr. Sanders did not benefit from an assumed truth of presidential campaigns: that early-state victories help bring in voters from other factions. Instead, people like Lori Boerner of McLean, Va., said Mr. Sanders’s performance sent them searching for a candidate who could stop his rise, and after the South Carolina primary, they landed on Mr. Biden.

The vast bulk of the party does not like sanders which is why Joe Biden is going to the nominee
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Bernie just plain F'd up. [View all] garybeck Mar 2020 OP
He did not accept that label. He EMBRACED it. MineralMan Mar 2020 #1
yes, i said exactly that. and that was his downfall. n't garybeck Mar 2020 #2
The word "accepted" is ambiguous enough to suggest that the label was thrust upon him by others... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #8
Do you really think that is Bernie's only problem?? Mars and Minerva Mar 2020 #10
Telling the TRUTH was his downfall? Interesting take. Hortensis Mar 2020 #46
Agree, it wasn't a "label" that doomed him, radius777 Mar 2020 #56
universal health care did not help Italy AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #77
Italy has a good healthcare system. Our party is COMMITTED Hortensis Mar 2020 #80
He Began With It, Sir --- No One Pinned It On Him The Magistrate Mar 2020 #3
that's not the point garybeck Mar 2020 #9
It Is Part Of His Identity, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #16
True that. ucrdem Mar 2020 #22
New England Is An Odd Duck, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #25
Nicely done! ucrdem Mar 2020 #29
So good to see you back, sir, with your finely toned rhetoric and GoneOffShore Mar 2020 #33
Too much socialist oppo on him to deny it. In less than a... brush Mar 2020 #61
Yep, and the repugs have tons of oppo on him they're just... brush Mar 2020 #59
+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #60
By the time he decided to run for president, it was way too late, there were too many examples sop Mar 2020 #4
Very astute observations. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5
He Can't Admit Making A Mistake, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #11
He should have dumped the label -- I've been saying that for years. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #6
Yeah, that ".. no one can stop me.. " didn't Cha Mar 2020 #63
Social democrat is better dawg day Mar 2020 #7
agree. garybeck Mar 2020 #14
True, but he doesn't want to be identified as a Democrat. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #37
Most labels should be dropped frazzled Mar 2020 #12
Moderate and moderate Democrat aren't even the same thing. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #38
The corporate bugaboo is especially nutty Aquaria Mar 2020 #48
+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #57
Castro was a mistake but coronavirus was waiting in the wings ucrdem Mar 2020 #13
We've been in chaos mode for years now Aquaria Mar 2020 #49
I Think There are Several Reasons that Keep Bernie From Winning The Nomination That Have Nothing to Indykatie Mar 2020 #58
Truth. So many negatives, it's amazing he got as far as he did. ucrdem Mar 2020 #64
Bernie Sanders is an astute politician ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #15
It's an essential part of his identity and his appeal dalton99a Mar 2020 #17
not really. i live in vermont garybeck Mar 2020 #23
He needs to end it SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #18
He is who he is. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #19
The best title to use is Democrat. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #20
I think the last straw was "coming for the Democratic Establishment" LakeArenal Mar 2020 #21
Bernie is a socialist, not a Democrat, Progressive dog Mar 2020 #24
He never should have accepted the "socialist" label. left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #26
He wants to be the grumpy, set outlier and then demands everyone conform to him. That is why he was LizBeth Mar 2020 #27
Right wingers weaponize labels to mock, misrepresent, and marginalize Shermann Mar 2020 #28
He did not play by the rules NCProgressive Mar 2020 #30
by june, I wonder if socialism would still give people the same bad taste it did before. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #31
Murica is not ready to understand progressive issues. That simple. And they are, that simple. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #32
Ugh!!! mac2766 Mar 2020 #34
*sigh* nolawarlock Mar 2020 #47
Go out in the real world Aquaria Mar 2020 #50
Agreed! Universal care goes way back to Roosevelt even... brush Mar 2020 #65
If Recollection Serves, Sir, It Was The Old 'Iron Chancelloe' Put In Place The First One The Magistrate Mar 2020 #71
Thanks, and perhaps where Teddy Roosevelt got it from... brush Mar 2020 #72
No. betsuni Mar 2020 #54
Thanks for this, for explaining the real deal origins of these issues. brush Mar 2020 #66
Problematic personally, not widely appealing. Weak AA support. Never struck larger themes emmaverybo Mar 2020 #35
So very true DownriverDem Mar 2020 #36
Should have never hijacked the Democratic primaries, twice, while retaining the I affiliation question everything Mar 2020 #39
Ezactly! And, that's not all he shouldn't have done. Cha Mar 2020 #41
Yes he embraced it.. and that's not all he shouldn't have done. Cha Mar 2020 #40
He could have remained a democrat. But nope. boston bean Mar 2020 #42
Yes, what is with the constant switching back to (I)? brush Mar 2020 #67
He has to say: "Sit down for 10 minutes and I'll explain". JohnnyRingo Mar 2020 #43
Branding Roy Rolling Mar 2020 #44
when a pony has one trick, it tends to keep doing it Skittles Mar 2020 #45
An old one Aquaria Mar 2020 #51
oh I think old folk can learn new tricks Skittles Mar 2020 #52
+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #55
Heeheehee! You are bad. brush Mar 2020 #68
one correct badass Skittles Mar 2020 #70
50 years of red baiting propaganda is hard to ocercome. rampartc Mar 2020 #53
I'd argue the opposite dansolo Mar 2020 #62
So true. America will not elect a socialist, even if... brush Mar 2020 #69
I am glad that sanders will not be the nominee Gothmog Mar 2020 #73
sanders sent Cynthia Nixon to Florida to deal with Castro issue??? Gothmog Mar 2020 #74
Bernie was so sure he was going to beat Biden that he campaigned in Klobouchar and Warren's states Gothmog Mar 2020 #75
His intentions were good? That is why he hired such divisive people as Gray, Sirota, and Turner still_one Mar 2020 #76
He's a terrible, one trick pony (anger), front man for a poorly packaged/designed product. gulliver Mar 2020 #78
It seems that even the sanders have realized that Sirota is toxic Gothmog Mar 2020 #79
How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #81
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