Democratic Primaries

Rilgin

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114. Ugh. The republicans control the Senate. Not the democrats

Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:12 PM

Mar 2020

You know this. The republicans in the Senate (McConnell) crafted the bill with no Democrat consultation. Eventually, they negotiated with the House through Chuck Schumer. You know this or should. Its absolutely crystal clear I am talking about this bill on which Bernie did like tons of other Senators, spoke against republican provisions. Some on the senate floor, some in interviews. Some in round tables. No Democratic Senator including Democrats in general leadership roles in the Democratic side of the Senate have much power to do much otherwise. Nancy Pelosi, my representative, has power and negotiated with McConnell. Chuck Schumer has little actual power to effect results as was recently illustrated by the impeachment in the Senate. So you really do NOT have to correct me on a stupid point. Deal with the actual point. The OP says/implies Bernie wants Trump elected which was his main point. Turn your correction on that which is clearly wrong rather than nitpick my post for something that was neither my main point nor even a side point or even an implication.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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To those who STILL support Sanders: as I have previously posted, I agree with much [View all] Atticus Mar 2020 OP

Amen. showblue22 Mar 2020 #1

It's unpersuasive when your arguments against Bernie depend on saying things he never said Bucky Mar 2020 #24

Well said. Thanks. mikelgb Mar 2020 #35

Why wait then? Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #40

You Get No Cigar For That, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #49

That is a chilling analogy, KitSileya Mar 2020 #63

The Comitern Slogan At The Time, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #67

How very Susan Sarandonesque of them. KitSileya Mar 2020 #70

Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #71

I'm not trying to persuade anyone. showblue22 Mar 2020 #62

We're not afraid of debate Aquaria Mar 2020 #72

Sanders is no liberal, neither is his base radius777 Mar 2020 #116

It Is Only Courteous, Sir, To Take A Man At His Word The Magistrate Mar 2020 #122

Of course. "When someone shows you who they are, radius777 Mar 2020 #124

Whoa! notinkansas Mar 2020 #2

I stand by every damn word in my OP. If you want "peace", stop slashing and burning. nt Atticus Mar 2020 #4

Huh? notinkansas Mar 2020 #11

The Question Inevitable Arises, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17

Agree. Lonestarblue Mar 2020 #36

The primary is over. Accept reality Walleye Mar 2020 #5

No it's not MythosMaster Mar 2020 #20

Of Course It Is, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #25

That would be news to those MythosMaster Mar 2020 #28

Mere Whinging, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #32

Bernie is refusing to face the facts. Not a presidential quality . Walleye Mar 2020 #38

Biden is up by over 300 delegates...Sanders can't overcome this lead in a proportional primary... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #39

That is such a good idea. Use the tools we have LakeArenal Mar 2020 #104

I live in a May primary state... dawg day Mar 2020 #48

Yeah, as others have pointed out, what's the difference between the supporters of Sen. Sanders KitSileya Mar 2020 #66

Exactly seta1950 Mar 2020 #78

No more of news than it is Aquaria Mar 2020 #74

Where do you get your 350 vs 650 numbers. whopis01 Mar 2020 #57

Treat Each Primary As A Baseball Game, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #61

But it is not a baseball game. whopis01 Mar 2020 #85

Let Me Try Again, Sir, Very Slowly The Magistrate Mar 2020 #91

You can be as slow as you need to be. whopis01 Mar 2020 #99

I Do Appreciate The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #102

Yes...It Is.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #45

Show me your math MythosMaster Mar 2020 #139

Go Fetch..... LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #142

I asked for your math MythosMaster Apr 2020 #145

The link has the math... LovingA2andMI Apr 2020 #146

Fumbled in your own endzone MythosMaster Apr 2020 #147

So Don't Have Time to Play This Game.. LovingA2andMI Apr 2020 #148

The fact that you don't understand the math of proportional allocation grantcart Mar 2020 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #23

Oh, FFS! Stop it. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #6

Thanks. nt Atticus Mar 2020 #8

Trying to take down the Democratic party? notinkansas Mar 2020 #12

'Bernie' Most Definitely Is Not, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #19

Sir! Are you also saying notinkansas Mar 2020 #43

You Know Perfectly Well What I Am Saying, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #54

The problem is that Aquaria Mar 2020 #79

No other candidate campaigns against the Democratic party, just Bernie. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #22

We have to fight on 2 fronts seta1950 Mar 2020 #86

... William769 Mar 2020 #13

Well said seta1950 Mar 2020 #84

If Bernie wants to state how he is better that is fine NCProgressive Mar 2020 #15

This is shameful mcar Mar 2020 #31

There is only one candidate who will win the nomination, and 99% of Democrats know this. George II Mar 2020 #26

Yes! redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #3

Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes! justhanginon Mar 2020 #7

We all agree with much of what Bernie advocates, but... mtngirl47 Mar 2020 #9

hes sucking all the oxygen out of the room when we need it the most! samnsara Mar 2020 #10

By 'sucking all the oxygen out of the room' notinkansas Mar 2020 #14

His message has been soundly rejected NCProgressive Mar 2020 #16

Actually, no. People rejected Bernie, not his ideas. Bucky Mar 2020 #27

That is an entirely false narrative created by Bernie NCProgressive Mar 2020 #34

To Be Kind, Sir, That Overstates The Case Considerably The Magistrate Mar 2020 #58

Gawd you fight the good fight. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #106

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #152

His ideas are nothing new to this party Aquaria Mar 2020 #83

"Too many" people that "his message is resonating with" aren't inspired enough to vote for him. ehrnst Mar 2020 #18

Try Not To Strain Your Shoulder Patting Tourself On The Back, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #21

The best would be to ignore him, but I would be concerned at the lengths the Sanders campaign OnDoutside Mar 2020 #47

I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #55

It sure is, and to borrow from Rachel Maddow, "watch what they do, not what they say" and the OnDoutside Mar 2020 #119

Unfortunately, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #121

True enough, it's increasingly difficult to avoid that conclusion. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #130

No, his message hasn't resonated with many people at all. In fact it's resonating with LESS people.. George II Mar 2020 #52

Please Aquaria Mar 2020 #82

stop telling me who to support NJCher Mar 2020 #29

I assume you actually believe that makes sense. That makes one. nt Atticus Mar 2020 #33

stop ascribing motive NJCher Mar 2020 #81

I vote narcissistic bullshit. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #105

not even mildly amusing NJCher Mar 2020 #128

Oh you Sanders people have such thin skin. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #131

what's that got to do with anything? NJCher Mar 2020 #133

Your argument is with whoever brought up LakeArenal Mar 2020 #134

Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #30

Yes seta1950 Mar 2020 #87

And Those Who Do Study History, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #107

And There Is History Behind This Worth Study, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #153

I couldn't agree more! Mickju Mar 2020 #37

Ego trip Walleye Mar 2020 #41

To be fair, this really isn't about the Sanders supporters. This is about Sanders refusing to do the OnDoutside Mar 2020 #42

I Just Want health Care for All McKim Mar 2020 #44

It might not happen in one fell swoop dawg day Mar 2020 #53

Yes seta1950 Mar 2020 #89

I remember Nancy Pelosi advocating for universal health. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #108

We have Europeans & American ex-pats who post at DU. I hate to tell you this, but no country.... Hekate Mar 2020 #76

Good Points, Ma'am, And Good Questions The Magistrate Mar 2020 #110

That's fine seta1950 Mar 2020 #88

Guess what? Aquaria Mar 2020 #90

Many facts presented in your post. Thank you. Hekate Mar 2020 #111

Thank you! betsuni Mar 2020 #120

Since you didn't support him...what difference does it make...and I want a unicorn...but it won't Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #140

to those who buy into this Bernie Vs Joe crap azureblue Mar 2020 #46

I really hope it's bots trying to divide us Frances Mar 2020 #51

It's not just bots and Russian trolls by a long shot. comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #94

A dose of reality...the only way to remove him is by winning the election...and Sanders endangers Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #141

The friend of our enemy is our enemy. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #50

For many of Rebl2 Mar 2020 #56

Dreamed Aquaria Mar 2020 #92

To an extent, Bernie is a victim of his own campaign. Mopar151 Mar 2020 #59

Just a thought hell674 Mar 2020 #64

The process is as done for BS Aquaria Mar 2020 #93

who exactly hell674 Mar 2020 #136

Does this look anything like trying to get Republicans elected? Link provided Rilgin Mar 2020 #65

You really believe that BS Aquaria Mar 2020 #95

Ignore the tenor of a post, nitpick and pick a fight Rilgin Mar 2020 #100

I believe that it is necessary to correct you. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #112

Ugh. The republicans control the Senate. Not the democrats Rilgin Mar 2020 #114

You made a false claim that did not withstand scrutiny. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #117

There Really Is Not Much Room To Doubt, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #113

Going back to productive isolation with my family rather than get swarmed further on this thread (NT Rilgin Mar 2020 #115

. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #118

My OP does not really accuse Sanders of "wanting to get Trump elected". It pretty Atticus Mar 2020 #127

It is projection. Bernie does not want Trump to win. Rilgin Mar 2020 #135

You are minimizing the conduct of "some" of Bernie's 2016 supporters. They did not simply Atticus Mar 2020 #138

Bernie's empty gesture to an empty Senate chamber. Sanders was comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #96

Typical Bash. Avoid and nitpick Rilgin Mar 2020 #101

While we still have states yet to vote in rhe primary ms liberty Mar 2020 #68

When he concedes Aquaria Mar 2020 #97

All The Man Has To Do, Ma'am, Is Concede His Defeat The Magistrate Mar 2020 #98

I'm wondering if Bernie hates the 'Democratic establishment' more than he hates Trump. kstewart33 Mar 2020 #69

Let's use our Resources to Elect Biden and a Democratic Senate and House. MarcA Mar 2020 #73

I know at least one person who said this part of your post years ago Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #75

People should say they agree with most of what Warren advocates, since most of Sanders' blm Mar 2020 #77

Well Said, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #80

Calling people's politics "rabid" for supporting a candidate who is 2nd in the Democratic primary muriel_volestrangler Mar 2020 #103

Turner and Sirota---and those who think they are swell people---are definitely "rabid" Sanders Atticus Mar 2020 #123

Your OP is aimed at DUers, not "Turner and Sirota" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2020 #125

The only DUers who have cause to be insulted are those who---as the above post states--- Atticus Mar 2020 #132

Bravo. Thank you Atticus for speaking TRUTH. NT centrarchus Mar 2020 #109

It's about cult of personality and ego pleasing Legends303 Mar 2020 #126

This was Sanders MFM008 Mar 2020 #129

there is no way Sanders can try again in 2024 (as hopefully Trump is out and Biden or another Celerity Mar 2020 #144

Well said. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #137

K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #143

recommending people support Trump is okay here? mikelgb Apr 2020 #149

Are you really that stupid or do you just think everyone else is? nt Atticus Apr 2020 #150

It Would Be Pleasant, Sir, To Learn Where You Detect That In The O.P. The Magistrate Apr 2020 #151