Democratic Primaries

Music Man

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32. I understand the sentiment of every voice being heard,

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:40 AM

Mar 2020

And Bernie certainly has the right to go out on his terms. And as far as I can tell, there's no correlation between an early end to primaries and a victory in the general election--the opposite may be true, actually. The 2008 primaries went until the very end, and it helped set up the network for a landslide in the fall.

However, if there is no path for Bernie, it's unfair to ask people to give their money and time for a hopeless cause. It is, by and large, a waste of time when those resources can be used toward the fall, not only in the presidential race but in the downballot races. That is an area Bernie can do a lot of good. If we want a movement, we're going to have to succeed from the local level to the White House, and that effort has to start now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Passing this along. Posted on FB by one of my Democratic millennial black friends in Illinois. [View all] ancianita Mar 2020 OP

Sorry, but that's nonsense. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #1

"That's nonsense" for all those states to not get a ballot choice. Hear how that sounds? ancianita Mar 2020 #2

Irrelevant. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #5

Wrong. It's relevant that all the other candidates are out, and Bernie is still in. ancianita Mar 2020 #10

Nope, still irrelevant. He should have dropped out by now. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13

Not. Your. Call. ancianita Mar 2020 #22

Name-calling? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #39

Thanks for the setup. ancianita Mar 2020 #61

But Of Course, Sir, Sanders Is Not a Democrat The Magistrate Mar 2020 #57

Presume to tell that to party leadership. Or. Imagine away about what Bernie imagines. ancianita Mar 2020 #59

They Are As Aware Of It As I Am, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #63

This is a party nominating process, not an election. Walleye Mar 2020 #27

Those states don't have enough votes treestar Mar 2020 #35

It happens in every primary...Sanders lost and to have primaries is dangerous...time for Sanders to Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #42

We, here in NM, still rusty fender Mar 2020 #100

That happens every election year. dawg day Mar 2020 #76

If it was reversed . . . . Iliyah Mar 2020 #3

Woulda shoulda coulda speculation. We don't really know that. ancianita Mar 2020 #12

Sanders supporters were pushing Warren hard to withdraw and back him. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #17

Impugning supporters shouldn't equate in your mind with impugning the candidate. ancianita Mar 2020 #24

"Take that up with Tom Perez." TwilightZone Mar 2020 #37

Did you have a problem with Sanders supporters pushing mcar Mar 2020 #40

Nope. They did what they did. Yes, it was OK. Fact is, they didn't affect her decision at all. ancianita Mar 2020 #58

Got it. OK for Sanders people to say candidates should drop out mcar Mar 2020 #64

Bernie needs go now...Biden is being diplomatic as he should. There is no reason to waste one more Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #44

Actually, we do. kcr Mar 2020 #98

A big who cares...either get on board or get out of the way...the primary is over. Now it is time Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #4

He's back in the Senate as you speak. ancianita Mar 2020 #14

He has to get out for party unity...the primary is over. For once, he should do the right thing for Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #47

His being in the Senate right now shows that unity. As for it all being "over," he's probably gettin ancianita Mar 2020 #52

He needs to concede and endorse...nothing short of that is acceptable...and I say he should face Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #65

He'll probably agree with you on Trump. He'll concede. Just not when and how you want. ancianita Mar 2020 #67

People can still vote for Bernie dansolo Mar 2020 #6

Historic pandemic changes everything. *THIS TIME*. oasis Mar 2020 #7

Fair point. ancianita Mar 2020 #16

Indeed, Sir, It Is Nonesense The Magistrate Mar 2020 #8

"Must do harm"? Then you're afraid that this party can't hold together. That's proven nonsene, sir. ancianita Mar 2020 #18

My Outlook Is Indeed Dark, Sir: This World Is A Dark Place The Magistrate Mar 2020 #25

I suggest you pivot away from darkside speculation, sir, & go w/ the leadership response to Bernie. ancianita Mar 2020 #31

Again, Sir, Feigning Ignorance Is Not A Good Tactic The Magistrate Mar 2020 #33

You yourself presume to know another better than they know themselves. Carry on. ancianita Mar 2020 #38

Yes, the party won't unify until Sander is gone...it will be an uphill battle and we can't have our Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #49

+ 1 Raastan Mar 2020 #28

If we "shouldn't pressure Bernie to get out of the race..." LanternWaste Mar 2020 #9

Fair points. A balanced outlook on this is more helpful. Needing comfort on this issue isn't helpful ancianita Mar 2020 #20

In that case Sunsky Mar 2020 #11

What is to be proven? Nothing. There have been 30 votes so far, Sanders has won only 7-1/2... George II Mar 2020 #15

He's a developer at a Chicago IT software firm. Probably using that lingo, I guess. ancianita Mar 2020 #66

About what process?? Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #68

However, that should not preclude what Bernie thinks peacebuzzard Mar 2020 #19

Take it up with governors who've changed their primary dates. If Perez says we're in emergency ancianita Mar 2020 #21

It is clear to me that you think Sanders should stay in...there is no reason for this...none and it Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #51

No. I just don't think he should be vilified for not dropping out. Trump has beaten himself. ancianita Mar 2020 #55

Let me just say shoulda, woulda, coulda...he will be vilified...it has already begun. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #62

Who is assuming responsibility. peacebuzzard Mar 2020 #73

I really hate the "Undecided" option LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #23

If you're referring to me, say it. Fact is, I've committed to 2 of the best candidates in this part ancianita Mar 2020 #26

I believe you LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #36

I don't NCProgressive Mar 2020 #60

No reason to. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #43

I'm with you on that LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #50

This is not the General Election. This is a Party Primary, where we choose our best nominee. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #29

My argument is with those who demand Bernie drop out. They can if they want. But it's HIS call. ancianita Mar 2020 #45

It is his call and I guess soon we will learn about his character or lack there of...will he do the Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #53

Leaving one of the obvious reasons aside, the danger of a severe pandemic, Hav Mar 2020 #30

He's probably assessing that factor right now. His people have said he is, anyway. ancianita Mar 2020 #46

I understand the sentiment of every voice being heard, Music Man Mar 2020 #32

Thanks for your post. But "unfair" money and time is really up to the donators, as we know. ancianita Mar 2020 #34

Yes, Bernie's proposals need a Congress that would pass them treestar Mar 2020 #41

Good one. ancianita Mar 2020 #48

Yes, one of my all-time favorite stories and perspectives on this. Music Man Mar 2020 #71

I strongly disagree...2016 clearly shows this. Sanders must go...and if he doesn't should face Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #54

I agree Sanders needs to drop out. Music Man Mar 2020 #75

We are electing a President of the United States. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #56

Your friend does not understand the definition of a primary versus Politicub Mar 2020 #69

Then work to change the primary system. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #70

I live in one if those states, dawg day Mar 2020 #72

Did she vote yesterday? ucrdem Mar 2020 #74

Apparently they don't know what the primary process is. Historic NY Mar 2020 #77

I'll relay that point to him, see what he says, if anything. ancianita Mar 2020 #78

My black friend Dream Girl Mar 2020 #79

Sorry, it's just not healthy to humor delusional thinking. Sanders is done, you have deal with it. tritsofme Mar 2020 #80

Know what's just not healthy? To disrespect a Democratic candidate by keeping up conflict-driven ancianita Mar 2020 #82

Bernie's continued quixotic campaign against the presumptive nominee is disrespectful. tritsofme Mar 2020 #86

At this moment in time LakeArenal Mar 2020 #81

I hear you. Now tell it to party leadership. ancianita Mar 2020 #83

???? That has nothing to do with me. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #85

Fine. We'll keep the idea to ourselves. ancianita Mar 2020 #87

Sadly your opinion here appears to be a one off LakeArenal Mar 2020 #89

Sadly? Okay, be sad. Perez just suggested mail-in voting. Okay with that? ancianita Mar 2020 #90

You are contentious. I'm not into arguing for the sake of argument LakeArenal Mar 2020 #91

Me, neither. So what do you say about Perez's wanting remaining primaries to be mail-in. ancianita Mar 2020 #92

Yawn. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #93

Thought so. ancianita Mar 2020 #99

Vote to your hearts content MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #84

Yes. ancianita Mar 2020 #88

Meanwhile our unindicted Co-conspirator Tweedy Mar 2020 #94

I don't agree with your friend. nt ecstatic Mar 2020 #95

Well, I've updated him with the Tom Perez directive to use mail-in voting in remaining primaries. ancianita Mar 2020 #96

wow! Ok, I'm behind in the news! nt ecstatic Mar 2020 #97

Cool story, bro. Squinch Mar 2020 #101