Gun Control Reform Activism

Straw Man

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27. Rights.

Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:18 AM

Mar 2013

Provided we have a constitutional right to firearms (and, quite honestly, that 'right' hinges on which ever direction the Supreme Court leans), there is no such provision for ammunition.

Well, that would have been a pretty sorry-ass militia, then, with their ammunition-less arms. No, I think you'd have a hard sell to the Supreme Court with that one.

And for the strict constructionists among us, I'm quite comfortable with everyone having the right to own a single shot musket.

If you would like a response to that statement, I must insist that you write it on parchment with a quill pen and have it delivered to my home by a horseback messenger. I can PM you the address. If you would like to include the entire forum in the conversation, please hand-set it using lead type and print up as many copies as are necessary using a manual press. And hire a lot more horses.

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We tax a gallon of gasoline to build and maintain roads and bridges [View all] nonoyes Mar 2013 OP

Solve poverty, inequity, hopelessness, and the violence will go away. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1

+1 freshwest Mar 2013 #23

not sure it will go away, and in the meantime, guns are a very big part of violence and pollution CreekDog Mar 2013 #24

Agree. But most who covet guns would still covet them, carry them, buy the latest lethal technology Hoyt Mar 2013 #30

Just a thought. How about we fund national health care and medical research? geckosfeet Mar 2013 #2

Because it partly works, and the US is going to need all kinds of solutions to fix the problem. PDJane Mar 2013 #3

How about we tax food at 10%. That way everyone pays more. Granted the poor will feel the pinch geckosfeet Mar 2013 #12

The plan is to make those who can afford it pay, not to tax the essentials of life. PDJane Mar 2013 #18

Whose plan? I am not aware of any legislation moving in that direction. geckosfeet Mar 2013 #20

there is already a tax on bullets bossy22 Mar 2013 #4

SO let's ad 600% to that tax nonoyes Mar 2013 #6

Why don't we seize the assets of all family members of gun offenders? bossy22 Mar 2013 #9

^^^^ ellisonz Mar 2013 #37

It's 10% on firearms and 11% on ammunition, charged at the wholesale level slackmaster Mar 2013 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #5

I'm sure your ducks love that tax! nonoyes Mar 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author billh58 May 2017 #54

Chris Rock has a solution BainsBane Mar 2013 #8

LOVE this clip, probably should have been part of my OP. nonoyes Mar 2013 #17

I have long proposed a $5 per round tax on handgun calibers .25 & up, and on the military-style apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #10

unintended consequence? bossy22 Mar 2013 #11

It would be thrown out Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #13

Are you a Constitutional scholar or just a gun nut? nt Progressive dog Mar 2013 #14

you don't have to be a constitutional scholar bossy22 Mar 2013 #15

Because the poster stated an opinion on Constitutional law Progressive dog Mar 2013 #32

Neither Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #16

That's absurd BainsBane Mar 2013 #19

Yes, true wyldwolf Mar 2013 #22

Rights. Straw Man Mar 2013 #27

That, in itself, opens up another set of questions and, quite honestly... wyldwolf Mar 2013 #28

Yes. Straw Man Mar 2013 #34

circular arguments from you wyldwolf Mar 2013 #36

the notion that constitutionality BainsBane Mar 2013 #40

Absurdity. Straw Man Mar 2013 #26

the taxes on those are small Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #29

It would limit your right to free speech guardian Mar 2013 #39

No, it wouldn't. Congress could raise it to a MILLION dollars a round, and the courts apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #41

Not so-the Supremes have already held that such a tax is unconstitutional friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #50

Never gonna happen, and never should. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #21

it's a partial and temporary solution. The permanent solution is going to be a long slog. PDJane Mar 2013 #25

Have you ever heard of a"temporary tax" that truly was. oneshooter Mar 2013 #31

one or two. Mostly around one thing that had to be built, like water purification. PDJane Mar 2013 #38

What's a 7.62X19? CokeMachine Mar 2013 #33

"I didn't want to pollute the place with a link." ellisonz Mar 2013 #35

Yep, I meant 7.62 X 39, the so-called "Soviet round." Thanks for the correction. n/t. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #42

I knew what you meant. CokeMachine Mar 2013 #43

What about all the ARs chambered for non-military rounds? GoldenEagle16 Mar 2013 #44

Would need a direct connection. Tax going to pay hospitals for handling gunshot wounds, or form an freshwest Mar 2013 #46

Would you insure the owner, or the gun? oneshooter Mar 2013 #47

The owner of the gun, just like the owner of a car. Inanimate objects can't sign contracts. Not yet. freshwest Mar 2013 #48

The reason I asked was because some folks were talking about a policy for each firearm. oneshooter Mar 2013 #49

Yep Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #52

^^^^ ellisonz Mar 2013 #53

Bad precident manicdem May 2017 #55