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brer cat

(26,131 posts)
17. I am going to be rereading and pondering this for a while.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:41 AM
Feb 2015

Also sharing it. Several points hit me right off. IMO using "troll" in this situation is wrong and mendacious: to me a troll is simply someone who gets his jollies disrupting online discussions by posting provocative messages, and such persons are easily ignored and dismissed. We even enjoy playing with them on DU. What Lindy describes is stalking and harassment, and it should be called such.

We have discussed the "free speech" issue many times here, and I liked the way Lindy framed it: "When you talk about rape, I said, you get to decide where you aim: are you making fun of rapists? Or their victims? Are you making the world better? Or worse? It’s not about censorship, it’s not about obligation, it’s not about forcibly limiting anyone’s speech – it’s about choice. Who are you? Choose." That opens the subject to a more thoughtful conversation.

Last, I was hit very hard when she described the "message" from her deceased father. Pure slime. I don't believe I could have forgiven him. She is a very strong person to reach out in order to learn from him.

Great thread, ism.

Trolls have always seemed broken Android3.14 Feb 2015 #1
you are so right about their cry for attention vlyons Feb 2015 #16
I heard a piece on this with the author on public radio a few weeks ago... hlthe2b Feb 2015 #2
Yes, and he's just like one out of thousands ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #4
This: "...it doesn't negate their responsibility for the culture they are fostering." CrispyQ Feb 2015 #18
That was a fantastic read. Thanks! Pacifist Patriot Feb 2015 #3
Excellent article, TY for posting this. This kind of behavior is not limited to the internet, so I mother earth Feb 2015 #5
a good piece on this american life: barbtries Feb 2015 #6
I heard that when it was broadcast a short while back. Skinner Feb 2015 #10
I missed that ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #14
it's good barbtries Feb 2015 #20
Thanks--I think I will ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #23
yes it is! hopemountain Feb 2015 #37
I would find it very difficult davidthegnome Feb 2015 #7
I have a friend ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #13
I'm sorry that happened to your friend. =( nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #42
Thank you AJ90 ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #52
I second Joe's post. That is just awful. nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #53
K&R deutsey Feb 2015 #8
years ago there were a few trolls on du, who decided to photograph themselves La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2015 #9
+1000 ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #12
Edit: whoops, meant to respond to La Lioness Priyanka. nt F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #21
+1 F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #22
Trolling allows people to act in ways they can't get away with in person. Avalux Feb 2015 #11
Excellent article. lovemydog Feb 2015 #15
I am going to be rereading and pondering this for a while. brer cat Feb 2015 #17
I'm too aggressive ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #35
posted to for later 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #19
Thanks. What a great piece. n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #24
Exactly right. Mere criticism of misogyny is not censorship. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #25
"How do you deal with a bully without becoming a thug?" Warpy Feb 2015 #26
Wow ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #31
A great piece, thanks for posting! arcane1 Feb 2015 #27
That was heartbreaking to read. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #28
Yes we can ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #33
posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #29
Wow. That was fascinating. Going to listen the the TAL show. cui bono Feb 2015 #30
This is great and very powerful Number23 Feb 2015 #32
Oh yeah ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #34
When I was a kid my Father had real live trolls always after him mackerel Feb 2015 #36
K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #38
I didn't see that ending coming BainsBane Feb 2015 #39
This thread reminded me of a new reality show that I heard about arikara Feb 2015 #40
Hey- thank you ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #45
There are a few truly nasty people out there, who will go to ANY length, to make others feel like... AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #41
There are all kinds of trolls out there. JTFrog Feb 2015 #48
What a remarkable piece. Thank you. nt Hekate Feb 2015 #43
"it’s not illegal to reach elbow-deep into someone’s memories ... and twist them and weaponize them" phantom power Feb 2015 #44
And the backlash continues ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #46
I hope he is sincere, and follows through. nt Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #49
Yeah, me too. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #51
I can only hope this would make other "CEO's" do a little self reflection on how this affects their JTFrog Feb 2015 #50
This was on This American Life, two weeks ago... Javaman Feb 2015 #47
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