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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
9. I think the miniscule number of men and women who work as high end escorts
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:40 PM
Aug 2014

through agencies or on their own - whose clients are vetted, who can freely say no to a client without going hungry or getting beaten, who can get violent clients blacklisted - they may have freely chosen their career.

The vast majority are women and men without this security and who are forced, either by their pimps or by money needs, to see 8-10 johns a day, without any safety measure except instinct and perhaps some fellow street walkers. I am willing to bet that most of them want to get out of it, if they could see a way out, or if they thought they themselves were worth the effort. I think many do not see any alternative - some are addicts, some are school drop-outs, some have had their self esteem destroyed by abusive families and their abuser pimps - they are wise enough to see that getting out of prostitution is hard work, and that you need something of a break as well.

Harriet Tubman said that she could have freed thousands more if they had known they were slaves. I think with many prostitutes, many would get out of the business if they knew they were worth it.

Edited to add: And it isn't just many prostitutes that that don't value themselves as much as they are worth - too many workers in the US don't value themselves and their labor highly enough, so they continue to vote republican. I believe it's the same mental mechanism, and it is based on the same cultural exploit - that they should be happy to have work, and if they can't manage on what they earn/can't get a regular job, it's their own fault.

I can't even answer this without over-the-top snark. MadrasT Aug 2014 #1
LOL, PM me? redqueen Aug 2014 #2
Very frustrating gollygee Aug 2014 #3
yes, the Five Percent ... thank you. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #5
Yeah, all they want to talk about are those two edible slices of pizza redqueen Aug 2014 #7
HOW DARE YOU SHAME THE TWO PERFECT SLICES OF PIZZA!!!! MadrasT Aug 2014 #8
Off Topic Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #12
No but I'm curious now... redqueen Aug 2014 #17
I think she went by a username Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #23
Nah but that saying is so common I wouldn't be surprised if a few people had it. redqueen Aug 2014 #24
indeed, the word turns regardless of humans of any gender/sex. - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #25
That kind of saying is usually attributed to men. BainsBane Aug 2014 #50
you had to be here, Baines. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #52
Reading Comprehension Fail is to blame for some of this, I think. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #4
I think the miniscule number of men and women who work as high end escorts KitSileya Aug 2014 #9
agree. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #11
Well that's all the pro-industry types want to discuss, yes. redqueen Aug 2014 #18
and they continue to derail and obfuscate to further their fully vested interest in pursuit of Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #22
It was on the schedule jeff47 Aug 2014 #6
Your little 'joke' implies that it's anti-feminist trolling. redqueen Aug 2014 #13
Nope. My little joke implies that DU gets onto this topic regularly. jeff47 Aug 2014 #28
It doesn't just get onto it by happenstance. Someone has to start it. redqueen Aug 2014 #29
care to comment/elaborate on this post? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #20
Not sure what you want elaborated jeff47 Aug 2014 #30
are you concerned about willing prostitutes? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #31
I'm concerned when they are willing only because it's the "least bad" option. jeff47 Aug 2014 #33
ok, thanks for the clarification. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #34
the deeply erotic and fulfilling sexual experience of women and men in a mutually respectful CTyankee Aug 2014 #10
True. Erotica requires seeing the women involved as actual people. redqueen Aug 2014 #15
The Nordic model is working ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #14
"You're either pro-industry or pro-human rights -- You can't be both" + 100 whathehell Aug 2014 #16
Yes, the difference between owning and renting a human ... Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #21
I know what you are saying, but whathehell Aug 2014 #36
I want to take that out of the equation. I want to speak of those ~5% of women in the Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #37
I will be honest..I don't know. whathehell Aug 2014 #39
well, again that goes back to the inherent wrong of owning someone. and is there a difference Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #40
I'm not sure that was Brownmiller's reasoning..In speaking of prostitution, whathehell Aug 2014 #41
what does it say about this person that they feel the need to own/rent a person Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #42
Who knows?...I don't think it would be happening much if not for whathehell Aug 2014 #43
who knows Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #46
I have been wondering about this myself el_bryanto Aug 2014 #19
What started it? Scootaloo Aug 2014 #26
thank you for being brave enough to say even that. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #32
I just assumed it was spillover from the 50 shades nauseousness. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #27
It's the convincing evidence that trafficking is increased in countries that legalize. Squinch Aug 2014 #35
and then give a Seven y/o article trying to prove their point. sheesh. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #38
And the new nonsense: "But trafficking is a global problem so we can't talk about these country-by- Squinch Aug 2014 #45
the approval. the official DU3 TMG Seal of Approval. USDA Prime. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #47
I believe that some of the MRAs are starting "juicy" topics LanternWaste Aug 2014 #44
I saw one poster comparing it to football. boston bean Aug 2014 #48
selling ones body to strangers is dangerous boston bean Aug 2014 #49
It began with a news story about a boycott of 50 Shades BainsBane Aug 2014 #51
Aha, that's right - he posted an editorial by a conservative saying it should be legal. redqueen Aug 2014 #53
Dumbass ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #54
It's always great for someone else to do BainsBane Aug 2014 #55
Yeah... amazing how vocal they are about OTHER PEOPLE's rights to be prostitutes. MadrasT Aug 2014 #56
Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #57
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