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el_bryanto

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51. THey move it to consensual sex because it's safer ground

Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:35 PM

Jul 2014

It's an old argumentative technique - declare what your opponent is against and then attack that - the Straw Man argument.

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I'm so sick of anti-feminist trolls here getting a free pass. [View all] redqueen Jul 2014 OP

can you believe? the argument in an OP. hey... shut the fuck up. you are not allowed to say seabeyond Jul 2014 #1

I think I really am done with this place. redqueen Jul 2014 #4

there is one that is actively keeping the thread going redq. one. and ya... there are a few more seabeyond Jul 2014 #5

Do what you need to... TDale313 Jul 2014 #6

you sound like me the other day - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #15

Your anger jumps off the page, and I totally understand it. For me, when I saw that shit Squinch Jul 2014 #61

I made it through the first round of open rape apologetics on this board redqueen Jul 2014 #71

If it were only ignorance, I could stand it. But there is a glee that goes along with the ignorance Squinch Jul 2014 #73

Yeah, agree, but try and not leave, I know I want to everyday randys1 Jul 2014 #77

50 Shades is just porn intaglio Jul 2014 #2

Personally I'm sick of people defending the eroticization of hierarchical power structures. redqueen Jul 2014 #3

This needs to be put on bumper sticker. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #8

^^^^ yes and yes what you said - ^^^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #16

Yep & all you need to say is "BDSM: as long as it's consensual" and, bingo! whathehell Jul 2014 #81

My view is it's best not to get after people for their private choices BainsBane Jul 2014 #82

I'm sorry, but I don't believe, convenient as it may be to assume that stance, whathehell Jul 2014 #83

On a cultural level they mirror broader social relations BainsBane Jul 2014 #84

What's posted on a public website, is not very "personal" and whathehell Jul 2014 #85

I have to agree with you there. MadrasT Jul 2014 #86

Thanks, Madras, whathehell Jul 2014 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #90

What thread? Was it about 50 shades? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #7

good post. we will have a week or two of those applauding this trying to get this a norm, like rape seabeyond Jul 2014 #9

Exactly ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #11

that would be the reason hetero male porn is 87% about humiliating, denigrating the woman. that is seabeyond Jul 2014 #12

+1 LiberalLoner Jul 2014 #34

I have not read The Story of O ... or saw the movie ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #18

Yup-- only the book isn't clear what happens-- it ends there ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #45

thanks for the excerpt, ism. - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #47

dear lord. not sure I want to see this but off to search anyway Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #10

hey woman. this one can turn into an all day thing, if the guys feel they seabeyond Jul 2014 #13

ha! This is my weekend to work so, yeah. Not even posting in the thread although Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #14

" I could not get past the 3rd page" general consensus. pr blitz. that is all it was. seabeyond Jul 2014 #17

it was a hoot to watch as it went through the pseudo/ jr league club where I worked at the time. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #19

oh -- I see another thread about all this ... I think this is the one to which rq is talking about Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #20

exactly. keep it in your fuckin bedroom, please, and i wont give a fuckin flyin shit. exactly. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #21

I see you trying to explain that ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #22

really, so fuckin funny. isnt it. lol. and way too easy. it is foolish. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #24

the egotistical presumption of that OP astounds me. Dude! We are talking about a fucking MOVIE - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #23

i think this is the problem. the porn, the humiliation and degradation of women IS their sex life. seabeyond Jul 2014 #25

! Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #28

All decent SMBD porn has a "don't try this at home" warning ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #30

I used to work in the ED at the local hospital ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #33

the really sick part with men is stating women fantasize about rape. in womens fantasy, it is a seabeyond Jul 2014 #38

Oh but it's JUST a MOVIE ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #46

Starting a thread on that ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #50

for shame, ism ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #52

Oh yeah My Bad ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #55

The "flamebait" thread has a long history here at DU. MADem Jul 2014 #26

"the jury sweepstakes begin" seabeyond Jul 2014 #27

true enough but, only since the inception of DU3 did the jury sweepstakes begin Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #29

do you know. i rarely got a post deleted with du2. i knew the rules and followed. moderators were seabeyond Jul 2014 #32

me too, sea. me too and the very Fairest thing about is that the post that started it all was Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #35

Well, it's one form of tribalism over another. MADem Jul 2014 #36

Truth ... they are First and #1 Businessmen with families to support Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #40

Yeah I'm going to hide every thread ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #31

I agree. These guys are all just fighting with the mommies in their heads at this point, and Squinch Jul 2014 #60

+1 freshwest Jul 2014 #80

Yes. He is the one who gave us boobs in space among other things. He lives to flame, and I Squinch Jul 2014 #39

+1. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #41

Boobs in Space? I've heard of Jews in Space (Mel Brooks) .... MADem Jul 2014 #43

She was referring to this demonstration of sexism on DU. redqueen Jul 2014 #54

How the hell was that hidden? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #57

There was not one jury comment on the results BainsBane Jul 2014 #68

It was hidden because the poster's name is "seabeyond" n/t Scootaloo Jul 2014 #76

Skinner was correct to label that thread as off topic. MADem Jul 2014 #58

Honestly that shit does not even belong in the lounge - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #62

Well, I wouldn't start a thread of that type anywhere, not even in the lounge. MADem Jul 2014 #74

I would agree with you if this were DU2 but, on DU3 with GD being so lounge-y any more Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #75

I think the lounge keeps a lot of crap at bay. MADem Jul 2014 #78

Yes, if More People Would Use It but, They Don't ... so you see the conundrum here. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #79

Arrgh! I can't believe sea's post was hidden. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #67

And they're deliberately misrepresenting what the book is about. JoeyT Jul 2014 #37

perfect post. all around. thank you. their cheer for abuse of women being their entertainment seabeyond Jul 2014 #42

class and party DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #69

What irritates me is that I don't see people arguing they shouldn't el_bryanto Jul 2014 #44

What irritates me is that they are railing against people who are speaking against consensual sex Squinch Jul 2014 #48

I know right? ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #49

And they just pulled that weird argument out of their asses. It's as if I were to post an OP Squinch Jul 2014 #59

THey move it to consensual sex because it's safer ground el_bryanto Jul 2014 #51

it is hilarious to watch. and how they keep defending their right to remain ignorant Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #53

The same weird argument applies to porn in general. thucythucy Jul 2014 #56

I agree about redqueen's voice. It is one of the few reasons I still come here. And you are right Squinch Jul 2014 #63

bottom line DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #64

+1 ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #65

I've never been compared to Rick Santorum...until today, of course. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #66

I was late to the party and have been getting caught up. You did nothing wrong . . . kickitup Jul 2014 #88

Here is a synopsis of the book BainsBane Jul 2014 #70

What would be the point of future discussions? redqueen Jul 2014 #72

you have no idea how sick of it I am. Wish I could rec this post a million times and I do mean Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #89