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seabeyond

(110,159 posts) Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:21 AM Mar 2014

when i see a video, and i hear people cheer the video seeing a girl, [View all]

having an object shoved up her, i see du in a really ugly way. and i do not want to be a part of that. it has been a while since i saw the video. thurs nite.

i do not care if the intent of the video is to "shock" for good, for entertainment, to sell a product or for men to get off.

when i see a video on du of a girl getting something shoved up her....

i know it is time i walked.

i did. and i still have not gotten past it.

that we as a culture, a society needs to see this video of something being shoved up a girl, in order to feel. i think that says a hell of a lot about us. i think that maybe we ought to stop a moment and think about that.

what the fuck does it say about us?

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when i see a video, and i hear people cheer the video seeing a girl, [View all] seabeyond Mar 2014 OP

As I said to you at the time, my reaction is similar. malthaussen Mar 2014 #1

" I do tend to shy away from the "this mustn't be seen" response." then, normalize. seabeyond Mar 2014 #3

I doubt it accomplishes even that. malthaussen Mar 2014 #6

of course it does. literally, with our brain. we factually know it to be true. seabeyond Mar 2014 #7

But the mere fact that the makers of the film... malthaussen Mar 2014 #8

it is an indictment of society. if people do not say no. just no. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #9

Then wouldn't the same argument apply to even informing us that this happened? malthaussen Mar 2014 #11

how does the visual affect us? you ask? seabeyond Mar 2014 #14

Sorry, wasn't trying to divert... malthaussen Mar 2014 #17

but... my suggestion is, it is not digging deeper. it is running away. seabeyond Mar 2014 #19

That people not only objectify women-- they objectify Sex itself ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #2

it bottom lines to.... purposely hurting a girl (or woman) to make a statement. seabeyond Mar 2014 #4

Yeah I tend to over- analyze ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #5

I think that leads into a morass of trying to define a "sexual act." malthaussen Mar 2014 #10

I found the movie ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #12

Probably by some people. malthaussen Mar 2014 #13

Kind of what I think ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #16

I do tend to think people have the right to go to hell in their own fashion... malthaussen Mar 2014 #20

Interesting and accurate point of view IMO ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #22

I mean much the same thing when I talk about "damage control." malthaussen Mar 2014 #40

do you think maybe... because you are a man not seeing these humiliations done to your body, seabeyond Mar 2014 #23

Oh, unquestionably, Seabeyond. malthaussen Mar 2014 #25

none of it is sexual, and yet sexually gets men off. point. this is my point. we create. with this seabeyond Mar 2014 #21

And never the male ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #24

exactly. wouldnt a worse horror, rather than abusing a girls body have been, taking a grown man.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #26

One of the questions I asked myself about this video malthaussen Mar 2014 #30

I have no first-hand knowledge of such... malthaussen Mar 2014 #28

In Stephan Kings revised version of "The Stand" ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #33

Yeah, these things are clearly about what I call "dominance dynamics." malthaussen Mar 2014 #36

Perhaps when people first and foremost think of penetrative sex as a violent act MadrasT Mar 2014 #44

yes, I can see how that happens in thinking of it all. Thank you. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #49

Sea, you and I may not agree on this... Squinch Mar 2014 #15

so i ask squinch. what are we going to have to do next to a girl, to horrify us, as this becomes seabeyond Mar 2014 #18

losing the ability to feel. the extreme we are having to go to in order to feel. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #50

The video on the Congo? BainsBane Mar 2014 #27

this is my point. women told me that video was needed to be aware. yet, i was aware without the seabeyond Mar 2014 #29

I'll just point out there is a difference between porn and documentary BainsBane Mar 2014 #31

then from a visual perspective. of watching. what is the difference. seabeyond Mar 2014 #32

One is intended to inform, and does inform BainsBane Mar 2014 #34

i said from a visual perspective. seabeyond Mar 2014 #37

this: Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #46

I, too, use to appease myself saying men are equally repulsed. Then I realized being men they could seabeyond Mar 2014 #47

Not all men participated in those threads. Surely, The Silent Majority of DU do not agree with Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #48

I was still sittin in the horror of the girl getting a rifle shoved up her. seabeyond Mar 2014 #51

That scene with the gun ... was just a flash. I actually missed it the first time I saw the video Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #52

It goes back to my concern ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #35

people coddle their "pretty little minds" (barbara bush, not an insult but point), to be able seabeyond Mar 2014 #38

I get you. ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #39

another point. another question. how do you know? how do you know MOST people will be repulsed in seabeyond Mar 2014 #41

I agree with you, BainsBane... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #42

OK. I am weird and maybe because of my medical background. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #43

As a society we have become desensitized. It really is that simple. sea. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #45

I saw the landing page JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #53