History of Feminism

jeff47

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35. Well, it is a lot simpler.

Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:20 PM

Feb 2014

help with education of those who are slower to learn, for whatever reason.

From their perspective, either:
1) Human interaction is a massively complex thing with a million variables and very little logical flow. What works great in one instance will fail horrifically in what appears to be an nearly identical situation with different people. Heck, the same interaction can have wildly different results even with the same people in the same situation for not obvious reasons. Figuring out what is going on requires a lot of digging into each individual, their motivations and their history.

or

2) People like to look at hawt men or women.

It's pretty easy to cling to #2, especially if your personality fears or hates complexity. Add some reinforcement from media, and it's very easy to keep with it, right into a miserable old age.

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How to deal with unwanted attention in the digital age [View all] cinnabonbon Feb 2014 OP

It always amazes me how quick men are to objectify their own selves. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #1

Maybe because they're not used to being defined by that objectification? cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #2

Perhaps. Interesting. The power and who has it and when. Need to think on this some more. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #3

It IS a very interesting subject. I'll go look for some reading material on it cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #4

interesting conversation. keeping in mind CT's thread i have linked her.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #5

Ooooh, interesting! Thank you for the link, Sea. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #14

my theory is just germinating in my mind ... can not put it in words yet. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #7

think how HH used it on the one poster... and that is your answer. that is what it is all about. seabeyond Feb 2014 #8

HopeHoops/talkingmime ... one of the most despicable creatures to ever post on DU ... Do NOT Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #11

i do nto know anything about talkingmime. but, what HH did all the time in conversation with his seabeyond Feb 2014 #13

talkingmime is/was HopeHoops zombie. His first reincarnation. It is my understanding Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19

honestly and i swear it is cause society conditions and defines their masculinity seabeyond Feb 2014 #21

yes, this is what I think. They have been sold a bill a goods as much as women. It is time, sea ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #23

Lol. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #32

HH? I don't think I've met them. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #15

i can never remember the name. hoopey hoops or something. a poster that worked hard using this seabeyond Feb 2014 #16

Doesn't really sound like someone I'd want to have a conversation with. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #18

No. You do not. Nothing enlightening can come of it. He, imo, needs therapy. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #20

You put into words something I've tried to express for awhile: CrispyQ Mar 2014 #54

They're just applying their understanding to the situation. jeff47 Feb 2014 #22

Objectification is such a poor excuse for love, I think. Really, this is a sad commentary on the Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #25

It's not something cast in stone. jeff47 Feb 2014 #29

yes, I agree. It is these men that see no reason to participate in the threads that have caused so Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #31

Well, it is a lot simpler. jeff47 Feb 2014 #35

In the context of DU3, I think it better to err on the side of civility, dignity, and -common- sense Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #39

What kind of culture have we built in our general society? CrispyQ Mar 2014 #55

If that's the way they think cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #27

Yep, they are. jeff47 Feb 2014 #30

The more figure it out, the better. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #36

She handled that beautifully. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #6

That is also a good one! :D cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #9

yeah! or, "It's sweet that there are men who aren't ashamed to be below average in size. . . zazen Feb 2014 #12

Lol! That is so mean. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #34

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall sufrommich Feb 2014 #10

I wouldn't want to be the mom at all. She's the one I feel bad for in all of this cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #17

The mom had some catching up to do with her parenting skills. Learning experience for her, too. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #24

Yep. She and the dad should've taught him some respect for women. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #26

I'd say she's fortunate to have found out at this stage... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #28

Shudder. Yes, that's a good point. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #33

If he hasn't already and given the fact that he felt brazen enough to post that pic Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #40

my read of it and the ... dont show mom, is mom ALREADY had the conversation and the kid seabeyond Feb 2014 #43

Time for a refresher course, son. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #46

exactly. any boy... young man, that pleads not to send it to mama, says something. seabeyond Feb 2014 #48

he needs to work on that six pack, though. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #50

That's the second time something like that ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #37

It might have been posted here before - it's from 2013! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #38

NoI was a different one ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #41

I hope you find it, because I would love to see it. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #42

i figured it was the same. but, it did seem different. i figured this version just left some stuff seabeyond Feb 2014 #44

Can't find it ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #47

i am sure it has been. with you. not looking. i NEVER find what i am looking for, lol. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #49

I wonder how many here on DU would refuse to accept KitSileya Feb 2014 #45

Very few, I think mokawanis Feb 2014 #51

yeah, it's a little disturbing to think about. cinnabonbon Mar 2014 #52

And it's one of the things people, both men and women, can *do* something about. KitSileya Mar 2014 #53

Good posts, all. theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #56