I used to think people in this group exaggerated the level of misogyny on this site...

[roguevalley]

129. it is unfortunate that in our lives we only get to experience truly and fully

one point of view. If we could be men and they women for a few it would explain a great deal. I think that the men squawking about Michael Sam are hilarious. Consider this. Having an out gay man in the locker room ogling the other men (supposedly) like meat will only give them a taste of what women experience all the time. This is a small strange opportunity for a group of men to feel what women have to tolerate all the time.

Tits and ass. Sort of. Its about POV. Some people who never experience the sorrows and hardships of others cannot relate and when they hear it being spoken in the general sense, they feel it personally.

Consider the billionaires whining out there. They will never understand us. The small jabs and lack of respect they are getting for being money nazis is as close as they have come and they whine. I consider it a learning opportunity for them that they will fail because their entitled sense of personal offense is taking over their chance to change. That is what happens with men and their sense of personal affront at thinking they are being lumped in with the others. MY FATHER WAS MY HERO AND HE SUPPORTED ME AND MY MOTHER ON HIS SHOULDERS FOREVER! He exulted in our triumphs and he caught us in our defeats. If I live TWO MILLION YEARS I WILL NEVER REPAY TO HIM THE SENSE OF LOVE AND INVINCIBILITY that I feel because he SUPPORTED AND BELIEVED IN ME, MY SISTER AND MY MOTHER.

He is not part of this problem. He would not be included. Men need to listen with their ears and hearts. If you are already swimming with us, don't worry. This wasn't aimed at you. We want you with us. WE WANT YOU! Join us and listen. For those of us without experience in someone elses shoes ... the black, red, white, gender, sexual orientation, cultural, religious, economic and philosophical 'divides' that we create, WE NEED TO LISTEN! Then and only then will understanding and peace come. I have eternal hope for all of us. This place has some of my favorite teachers. I don't always like the lesson but I am ETERNALLY grateful for the teachers.

Even the ones that don't get it. Yet.