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Violet_Crumble

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51. Hi, hlthe2b. You and I have also worked well together in the past...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:58 AM
Feb 2014

Both in MIRT, and in this group as hosts. You know I have the utmost respect for you and boston bean, and while I know that you two and a few others will listen and reply civilly, I know from experience that there's going to be a few replies from others that are anything but civil...

I think there's a difference between reacting to something going on in GD and calling out other DUers. The former is fine and totally understandable, but the latter isn't, especially when it's in a group they can't respond in because they've been blocked, or would be blocked if they responded. The difference between the two is basically what Skinner has told GD hosts when it comes to the subject of what is and isn't 'whining about DU'. Expressing disgust for some of the OPs and posts that have been posted in GD over the past few days isn't calling out other DUers, but when someone attacks another DUer who's a woman and says that she's probably not even a woman, then that's a call-out, especially when they make it crystal clear who they're talking about. That sort of stuff is nasty, and having been involved along with you and BB in putting together the SOP of this group, I thought it was included in the SOP as something that wasn't supposed to be allowed in HoF. The person who posted that wasn't asked to self-delete their post or told that call-outs of individual DUers weren't allowed, and I think they should have been. I know you both are busy and aren't all over everything posted in this group, but the sad thing is that there's probably a few members of this group who see nothing wrong with call-outs like that and would accuse me of trying to tell women what to do, blah blah blah.

Anyway, as I have a lot of respect for you and BB, I won't put either of you in a position where you'd have to consider blocking me from the group, so I won't respond to replies from anyone if they decide to get their snark on. I just felt it was important to point out the difference between discussion of something going on in GD and call-outs of other DUers...

*peace*

I have a suggestion. seaglass Feb 2014 #1
Heh! ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #15
THANK YOU! redqueen Feb 2014 #25
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Feb 2014 #102
Oof, that's going to leave a dent Scootaloo Feb 2014 #29
Amen. n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #34
Har de har har har... CTyankee Feb 2014 #39
Thank you for posting those. Seeing the names that are in control in that area of DU... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #47
Sauce for the goose etc. etc. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #80
Are you confused? n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #83
No, I was agreeing with the sentiment that the OP should've been posted in other Groups as well. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #84
OK thanks I didn't understand what the shrugging was about. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #85
LOL DURHAM D Feb 2014 #2
Thanks, Dad gollygee Feb 2014 #3
I hope he is not blocked. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #4
Weren't you blocked from LGBT at some point? DURHAM D Feb 2014 #5
I have never posted in the LGBT, nor have I been blocked from that or any other group. bluesbassman Feb 2014 #10
bb, we have worked well together in the past.. but you seem oblivious to what hlthe2b Feb 2014 #6
Thank you hlthe2b, yes we have worked well together. bluesbassman Feb 2014 #12
accusing people of "abusing their privilege" geek tragedy Feb 2014 #19
Surely you must know that directing a blanket denunciation at a group (sans any specifics) hlthe2b Feb 2014 #21
In no way did I attempt to blame HoF members for "all the ills of DU". bluesbassman Feb 2014 #36
Thanks for reading the SOP boston bean Feb 2014 #40
Funny, because you defended one of the worst call out threads BainsBane Feb 2014 #48
Nailed it! Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #52
Would those be your uncomfortable truths and does everyone have to believe in and adhere to louslobbs Feb 2014 #35
Hi, hlthe2b. You and I have also worked well together in the past... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #51
I hope that since you are not blocked from the Men's Group you will share the same sentiments seaglass Feb 2014 #53
Interesting how the "concern" people voice about this group MadrasT Feb 2014 #54
I post in the Feminists group, and I have expressed the same concerns there... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #55
I remember well the ill feelings when this group was created as I was one who had them, seaglass Feb 2014 #56
Good post. n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #62
Oh, YOU'RE the one who posts there! PassingFair Feb 2014 #63
Violent, I hope we can count on you BainsBane Feb 2014 #61
You call out people in GD all the time, Violet. boston bean Feb 2014 #65
No I don't. I'm not into doing call outs... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #82
A call out is a call out, whether done personally to another DUer boston bean Feb 2014 #86
If call outs in HOF are okay. tammywammy Feb 2014 #91
tammy, call outs are basically ok everywhere all over DU boston bean Feb 2014 #92
This is my position as well. hlthe2b Feb 2014 #93
I wasn't referring to the rest of DU. tammywammy Feb 2014 #98
I'm not removing it. boston bean Feb 2014 #99
Not sure what prompted this BainsBane Feb 2014 #7
If you think something is inappropriate, alert. MadrasT Feb 2014 #8
And naturally the biggest problem on DU BainsBane Feb 2014 #9
You are attempting to put words in my mouth and have made an unsubstantiated claim. bluesbassman Feb 2014 #13
I have no idea what you are talking about BainsBane Feb 2014 #14
What do you mean by "promote stalking and intimidation"? BainsBane Feb 2014 #16
Here. bluesbassman Feb 2014 #24
Seriously? There is an almost daily call for HoF sufrommich Feb 2014 #27
I see BainsBane Feb 2014 #28
Shit son, you just described the daily operation of I/P Scootaloo Feb 2014 #30
I have to agree with the others that you are exercising selective outrage BainsBane Feb 2014 #33
No it doesn't. If I want to talk shit I use other mediums ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #11
Apparently we are not acting like LADIES. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #17
Ick. I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore. ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #20
I have to confess that I'm curious about what set him off BainsBane Feb 2014 #23
Thank you for the "small ray of light" you've shown to this group. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #18
GFY. JTFrog Feb 2014 #22
I love DU feminist Notafraidtoo Feb 2014 #26
Welcome to HoF. sufrommich Feb 2014 #32
Your concern is noted. Tien1985 Feb 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #37
Actually, from my experience with him on MIRT BainsBane Feb 2014 #38
Baines Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #41
True, and I spend very little time in the lounge BainsBane Feb 2014 #42
I am so glad we have finally been given some guidance about proper behavior. I was worried for us. Squinch Feb 2014 #43
OK I am laughing my ass off at all the innocents recommending this thread. seaglass Feb 2014 #44
LOL BainsBane Feb 2014 #45
LMAO, some of those names have been grinding axes for *years* now. redqueen Feb 2014 #50
I'd like to say something. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #46
AGREED. -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #64
You're right. I unrec'd. I had originally rec'd because I wanted my post to be considered... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #79
I agree with you. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #69
Yes, even a moderate lib wouldn't say the ugly things these people say Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #78
You are absolutely right. There are more and more posts that are virtually undistinguishable Squinch Feb 2014 #76
Yup, a leopard can't hide its spots, and neither can right wingers Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #77
let me guess ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #49
Step away from the internet JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #57
good advice the other 13 as well ...(updated to reflect the changes) Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #58
I think Sarah's rec is by mistake BainsBane Feb 2014 #59
I thought that name looked out of place. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #60
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but TheMathieu has sadly departed the premises. It appears seaglass Feb 2014 #66
,,, lol ,,, so sad/Not! Tombstone reads = Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #67
I'm shocked. Really. BainsBane Feb 2014 #68
Oh my God. I love that baby girl. sufrommich Feb 2014 #72
wow, that latest incarnation lasted three whole weeks. niyad Feb 2014 #88
I rec'd because OKNancy Feb 2014 #71
No ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #73
Just making use of the tools provided to us by DU3. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #75
You're in agreement with people going into protected groups and posting lectures... PassingFair Feb 2014 #90
There are people out there? Agschmid Feb 2014 #70
You forget BainsBane Feb 2014 #74
Posting this to one of the most maligned groups on DU seems a bit ironic, frankly. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #81
PLEASE tell me that you simply forgot the sarcasm thingy, because you cannot niyad Feb 2014 #87
bluebassman, I thought better of you UtahLib Feb 2014 #89
Did he start another one or do you mean the one about me? nt redqueen Feb 2014 #94
Yes, the one gleefully slamming you and HOF. nt UtahLib Feb 2014 #95
Callouts against feminists are okay BainsBane Feb 2014 #96
They're sure ok with two people who despite a demonstrated hostility toward certain feminist issues redqueen Feb 2014 #97
very.interesting. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #100
for you bluesbassman, Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #101
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