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seabeyond

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2. exactly. i agree. i have been preaching this. and this is why i am so bothered when talking about
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:46 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

our boys and giving them all kinds of excuses. that is all it is. i have watched boys the last 16 yrs go thru the system. we aggressively worked against the peer pressure that boys are anti reading. what is that. especially in middle school, there was a real push that boys are suppose to be uninterested in school, learning. that was never allowed in my house. my boys friends would come over and we would talk social and political issues. these kids would sit around the table or following me around expressing their opinion, listen to other thought. there was a need, craving for exploring thought, to the point after a time i would tell them, go off and play.

any kids that got in my car for a ride had to express opinion and thought. they all participated and loved it.

middle school, i was talking to the principal about oldest. i mentioned how he never stopped talking and his friends so actively participated in conversation. i mentioned one kid with such a desire to learn. the principal was shocked.... this kid had any interest. when talking to the mom, i would tell her how fun he was cause he never stopped talking. again, shocked, cause the kid was quiet. they had him in lower classes, but i felt he had an ok brain and liked to explore. but, cause they had not touched his interest, he stayed quiet.

it was expected and demanded in our house. the kids met that expectation. at a point in middle school, after years of being nice but directing to expectation, i finally told teachers.... have a high expectation of my kids, then they can meet it. keep it low, that is what they will meet.

so often i heard that it was just boys, being boys

so often i heard teachers begging for parental support.

i agree with your uncle, totally.

we need to NOT sell our boys short.

I assume that to be co-educational schools/colleges. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #1
exactly. i agree. i have been preaching this. and this is why i am so bothered when talking about seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
I raised a son too,Sea sufrommich Dec 2013 #3
exactly. i saw the classes boys put effort in and struggled. was a ... pass the class. seabeyond Dec 2013 #4
Exactly,I guess what I was trying to say, sufrommich Dec 2013 #5
exactly....lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #6
Great post. YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #7
I wonder if the old male stereotypes don't play into this in some way... Flatulo Dec 2013 #8
IIRC, most studies over the past 60 years show that girls have always outperformed boys Nay Dec 2013 #9
i think this is another of the very real equations in all this. absolutely. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #10
I think there's another dynamic going on as well ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #11
Do you know if the percentage of boys/men attending college have dropped boston bean Jan 2014 #12
I believe it has dropped a bit. nt Nay Jan 2014 #14
Due to longstanding American anti-intellectualism, guys have never taken education seriously eridani Jan 2014 #13
"Anti-intellectualism" was exactly how I was going to put it. And that will doom us all if we let it nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #16
I'm very glad you posted this in this group. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #15
Also that girls do better in school, therefore men are oppressed now. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #17
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