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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
41. From what I read (and I have not read *everything* on the topic)
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:49 PM
Dec 2013

she *did* ask that the phrasing be changed, and escalated through the local chain of command before going public.

The fact her child is young and adorable (yep, I am prejudiced - lol!) I believe really cemented the ridiculous nature of the *adult* charge. Again, this is not to say he should have been misbehaving so badly, but as I said, the *next* kid will hopefully not have to deal with that label, either. (How many others have it in their file because people were too embarrassed to kick up a fuss? We'll never know.)

Hopefully this will be a brief "thirty second story" in his own life (where his mother stood up for him) and he begins to behave appropriately.

I personally believe the misuse of "sexual harassment" both minimizes it when it occurs, and twenty years from now could have been used against him (based on the craziness of surveillance and privacy issues). Letting something like that stand in a document kept in public records would have been, in my opinion, more of an inappropriate thing to do by the mother than a few minutes of local news / internet fame. One can hope he remembers that people can make a difference, and again I believe the policy was examined by the local district and sanity restored.

I think treating elementary students as if their actions are criminal ("5 year old throws temper tantrum/ends up in hand cuffs"; "7 year old throws spitball/ends up in jail"; "6 year old chews sandwich into shape of gun/gets suspended"; etc.) is not good for anyone from the general members of society to the children involved. Some of my own horror is shaped by the over-reaction (especially in Florida - no idea why so many of the crazy stories seem Florida centric) in these situations, along with my "give me a break!" belief on the topic.

I have 6-year old twins; my daughter has been "engaged" and has multiple "boyfriends" (insert eye roll), while my son is completely on a different level socially, and spent a crazy amount of time in the last few months gleefully using "foul and inappropriate language" once he discovered it made adult heads explode. This phase was embarrassing to us, but since he usually indulged when he was *not* in our presence (and had not hit the ability to understand long-term consequences, which his sister had figured out a while ago) there were definitely some "parental challenge" moments involved. But if someone wanted to put "sex offender" in his file because he was using "foul and inappropriate language" at age 6 (when he doesn't even understand what the words mean), well, I can see this momma going crazy, too!

Teaching and parenting challenges are sometimes just about personalities, and opinions vary. Everyone gets to screw their kids up in unique and special ways.

I am going to stick with "not sexual harassment" - I've met a lot of pre-school/kindergarten/first graders at this point, and I just don't see *that* as an issue. Bothering, annoying, torturing, driving people around them crazy -- yup. "Sexually harassing" - uh, no.

Again, your opinion may differ.

As a man let me apologize [View all] MattBaggins Dec 2013 OP
I haven't read those BainsBane Dec 2013 #1
me. too. it has been so mind blowing in so many ways. thank you... as a man, for being seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
I think there was a conversation to be had over whether it was boston bean Dec 2013 #3
they should have. i do not think it was a concerted effort to label sexual harassment. it was a seabeyond Dec 2013 #7
Sea any parent that takes something like that public boston bean Dec 2013 #12
i agree. a nd that is what i said. i would not have has a problem with seabeyond Dec 2013 #14
I disagree with this. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #39
There was another way for her to seek justice. boston bean Dec 2013 #40
From what I read (and I have not read *everything* on the topic) IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #41
read what I have posted to determine where you and I disagree. boston bean Dec 2013 #42
Agreed - apparently where we disagree (which was I jumped into the discussion) IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #43
what about the girl... the mom encourage that behavior with the son saying the girl wanted it. seabeyond Dec 2013 #44
I'm confused as to how the bully seeming "young and adorable" to someone redqueen Dec 2013 #45
yes. me, too. floored. no thought of the girl. literally, none. but the boy was cute. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #46
Reminded me of this from role reboot, which I see was posted on DU redqueen Dec 2013 #48
i swear it is the need to wrap it up all pretty with a tidy bow to be able to digest. this is what seabeyond Dec 2013 #47
I haven't read them, but I am so happy to see your post. I knew an issue would come along Squinch Dec 2013 #4
I probably should have added what u said.... boston bean Dec 2013 #5
But the whole incident, also, was just a flamebait tossed into the arena for them to say, "see? Squinch Dec 2013 #15
Yeppers! boston bean Dec 2013 #16
Knowing what to expect I'm staying out of it ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #6
Have you told Admin how ashamed you are? xulamaude Dec 2013 #8
Are they still around here? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #9
Good questions. xulamaude Dec 2013 #11
Nope. As long as the people who want to silence women and take their choices from them are Squinch Dec 2013 #17
You could post in ATA BainsBane Dec 2013 #22
I am going to get posts hidden MattBaggins Dec 2013 #10
I just read that ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #13
I'm so glad I decided to stay out of that. DU has been making me sad enough lately. Squinch Dec 2013 #18
me too ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #20
Ugh. I looked in out of curiosity. So sad. Squinch Dec 2013 #50
You did get a hide BainsBane Dec 2013 #24
The hide you asked about in ATA ... bad hide ... and what was left to stand ...? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #31
It's because BainsBane Dec 2013 #32
yes. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #34
Bullshit hide, man. xulamaude Dec 2013 #26
sigh... i am sorry you got a hide. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #28
appreciate it. thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #19
ironically they're being pretty misandrist in how they represent the inevitable nature geek tragedy Dec 2013 #21
That is what I said in my jury comments in the alert on you BainsBane Dec 2013 #23
No, someone alerted on that? PM m por favor nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #25
absolutely. the give a little boy so very very little credit. my boys are appalled when i say some seabeyond Dec 2013 #29
Every single time DU talks about gender, rape, or sex it always goes like this. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #27
plenty of women do shit in the name of being a woman i am not thrilled about either. i do not own seabeyond Dec 2013 #30
It does always go like that doesn't it? Though now it feels like there is a group who are Squinch Dec 2013 #49
the phrase "teaching moment" is lost and meaningless on DU. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #33
the person you responded to which got your post hidden was fired for not reporting a kid JI7 Dec 2013 #35
that was totally weird. and with the strong reaction, i was sure something was there. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #36
I can't even redqueen Dec 2013 #37
i know... seabeyond Dec 2013 #38
well, again, I am in good company Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #51
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