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Buzz cook

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22. Depends on what god
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jan 2025

Some like Thor or a charioteer that drives the sun across the sky then walks it back through the underworld, are pretty easy to disprove.
Most gods with a direct and necessary role in nature are pretty easy to disprove because we now know how lots of thing in nature work. So rain gods need not reply.
Then there is a question of how a god is described. Yahweh can't be omnipotent cause there are logical contradictions, can he make a rock too heavy for him to lift or make a married bachelor? So he got down graded to maximally-logically-consistent-potent.
Then there is the question of how we know a god.
Direct revelation would be great, but doesn't seem to happen now. Inner revelation, the internal witness is problematic because if a god dwelt in us then there could be no doubt, yet even the most fervent believer has doubts.
So the vast majority of people get their knowledge of gods indirectly, either from church writing or a person telling them. The problems here should be obvious. I don't know any holy book without contradictions or some really problematic things in it. Given the number of grifters out there, how do you tell the holy ones from Jim Jones?

So yes you can disprove gods.

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Atheism is not a religion. Basso8vb Dec 2024 #1
This is the AI answer and I tend to agree with it. walkingman Dec 2024 #2
You're an Agnostic. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #3
Lol. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #37
It's hard to prove a negative, but the likelihood of a diety seems very low, like infinitesimally low. Blues Heron Dec 2024 #4
"single celled organisms got woke" Beartracks Dec 2024 #5
I don't completely dismiss the idea of a diety, but... av8rdave Dec 2024 #6
Still grasping. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #38
Yours is a point worth repeating av8rdave Mar 2025 #48
Succinctly put! I can't understand why this is such Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #49
Good Orderly Direction WmChris May 21 #51
I think it's natural that we ask where we come from. How it all started. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #7
That always tops my list too! The religious person Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #43
I am an atheist Americanme Dec 2024 #8
Being religious I absolutely agree with this post Stargazer99 Dec 2024 #15
100% agree. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #39
I dismiss deities like unicorns. Cartoonist Dec 2024 #9
It is correct neither can prove their position. HAB911 Dec 2024 #10
Depends on what god Buzz cook Jan 2025 #22
It's called agnostic - Nigrum Cattus Dec 2024 #11
Religion has always been a bane, in my estimation biophile Mar 2025 #36
The world might have embraced a community of non-religious people no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #12
I was raised Ethical Culture! cilla4progress Mar 2025 #30
"I'd have included Unitarians but they still lean on the God idea." 3catwoman3 Mar 2025 #32
This seems so obvious to me! Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #40
I am an Atheist A HERETIC I AM Dec 2024 #13
I would love to have Bertrand Russel's teapot progressoid Dec 2024 #14
That is one of my very favorite quotes! Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #41
I am atheist Farmer-Rick Dec 2024 #16
That's exactly how I feel. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #42
I'm not sure what you mean by "an opposition to all the belief systems they reject" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2024 #17
What I mean by that.... Joe Nation Dec 2024 #18
I can't see why that's "subordinate", though muriel_volestrangler Dec 2024 #19
I can't speak for Joe, but I believe I feel a similar Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #44
I have seen no compelling evidence for the existence of a god or gods. Iggo Dec 2024 #20
you are most likely agnostic state of stupid Dec 2024 #21
Interesting thoughts. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #45
To answer your question WestMichRad Feb 2025 #23
You've explained something I've been saying for ages in a way that may be clearer. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2025 #24
That is the issue for me Joe Nation Mar 2025 #25
If you want a word that is positive, there are ones like 'humanist' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2025 #47
I fully agree with you. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #26
Evolution has powerful examples in many disciplines. Religions cannot even get their act together. GreenWave Mar 2025 #27
Truth. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2025 #46
Outside of cussing...I don't invoke any god... MiHale Mar 2025 #28
yes - cilla4progress Mar 2025 #33
😉... MiHale Mar 2025 #34
Genetically speaking, how could Noah and his sons father many different races? Lonestarblue Mar 2025 #29
How do you define cilla4progress Mar 2025 #31
I'm a wistful agnostic. GPV Mar 2025 #35
Yeah, I'd love to say that I don't think about or Joe Nation May 21 #50
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