Atheists & Agnostics

DetlefK

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12. You are addressing different forces of nature.

Fri Oct 7, 2016, 01:38 AM

Oct 2016

I'm talking about Renaissance-magic here, which inspired most of what today's novels/movies depict about magic.

In this magic, the universe consists of several layers: God at the top-most, below him Archangels, below them Angels, below them stars and planets (corresponding to spirits and daemons), below them the humans, below them the animals, below them the plants... Approximately like that.

When you pray, you go directly to God. When you do magic, you reach out to a higher layer to harness its power, though nobody has ever "discovered" how to contact God's powers by magic. Magic is more pseudo-science than Religion.

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Billy Graham: 2 things Christians can do to lead Atheist friends to Jesus Christ [View all] RussBLib Oct 2016 OP

I don't mind the praying, deucemagnet Oct 2016 #1

How Is Prayer Any Different from Casting a Spell? Leith Oct 2016 #2

A spell appeals to spirits of nature, demons or the devil, while a Chrisitan's prayer appeals to Nitram Oct 2016 #5

Yeah, Kinda... Leith Oct 2016 #7

You are addressing different forces of nature. DetlefK Oct 2016 #12

They should do something useful like praying to stop earthquakes and hurricanes. Binkie The Clown Oct 2016 #3

I believe studies have rated prayer at the same level of relevance to reality as Astrology. Nitram Oct 2016 #6

Zilch, nada, bogus, futile and inutile. AlbertCat Oct 2016 #8

If a bunch of christian fundies were praying for me in my hospital room I'd probably Nitram Oct 2016 #11

You don't have to convince me. Us virgos are too logical to believe in Astrology. n/t Binkie The Clown Oct 2016 #10

Praying is the ultimat slacktivism Warpy Oct 2016 #4

Notice.... AlbertCat Oct 2016 #9