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onager

(9,356 posts)
8. According to Ali, she ran into the DU Problem...
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

I just invented the term "DU Problem." You're welcome!

Translation - she ended up at AEI because she was so critical of Islam, no Left-leaning think tank would dare hire her. You know, sort of the same way it works in Certain DU Groups - if you specifically criticize a bunch of barbarians for cutting off people's heads, you're viciously attacking all the good peaceful Muslims ALL OVER THE WORLD. And are clearly a racist shit-lord or something.

Ali explains it herself in this Patheos interview. Bonus Shitlordery - with Sam Harris!

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/05/09/why-its-insane-that-much-of-the-left-rejects-ayaan-hirsi-ali-and-sam-harris-as-their-liberal-bedfellows/

WARNING: FULL ASSHOLE MODE: in the past few years, I've seen many blog blowhards attacking atheism for being a den of Old Rich White Cis-Het Male Bla-Bla-Bla. And endlessly preaching that we need more women and minorities in atheism.

I agree with that 100%. And it seems to be working. e.g., Atheist Ireland keeps a list of 1,500 atheist women willing to publicly speak on the subject.

But recently we've had Ayaan Hirsi Ali attacked for various shortcomings. And Jamila Bey - a Black atheist woman - attacked for speaking to the Conservative Political Action Committee.

So I can't quite figure out what "movement atheism" - whatever that may be - is saying.

But it seems uncomfortably close to something like this: "Yes, we want more women and minority atheists to speak out. But only if they agree with us 100%. Otherwise they should STFU and stay in the back of the bus."

If that is the approach, I don't think it's going to work very well.

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Pope Frank would say Cartoonist Apr 2015 #1
Her husband is also a real gem ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #2
Ferguson's ex-wife was a Daily Fail editor. onager Apr 2015 #6
Yup. He's a Grade-A arsehole.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #10
It is hateful to say that islam promotes terrorism, breeds sectarian conflict Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #3
She must be a racist. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #4
Clearly nil desperandum Apr 2015 #11
"safe haven" is a misnomer RussBLib Apr 2015 #12
Thank you nil desperandum Apr 2015 #13
How dare you Lordquinton Apr 2015 #14
a yellow flag on Ayaan RussBLib Apr 2015 #5
I'm not sure what to make of her affiliation with AEI. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #7
According to Ali, she ran into the DU Problem... onager Apr 2015 #8
I don't think "movement atheism" is the problem. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #9
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