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Why Syzygy

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9. The story....
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013

doesn't sit well with me. "Forgiveness" is part of the Jesus myths. Of course the Church would want people forgiving all the ugliness they committed. And they could gain control and riches by selling God's forgiveness. It's disgusting.

Also interesting that this 'legend' is always attributed to Natives. As if they should forgive the genocide and continuing mistreatment and horrific living conditions. Forgive? I don't forgive what has happened to them. It makes more sense that some Catholic money grubbing Pope wrote it.

I think this does a much better job of explaining the story.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_wrote_Two_Wolves_words_of_an_old_Cherokee_Indian

The folk story of "Two Wolves" is attributed to many different tribal people. No published accounts of Cherokee oral history, folklore, or philosophy-of which their are many-include this story and it's basic premise of good battling evil is foreign to the Cherokee worldview.

This story, as many others like it, (even IF it were native in origin) would not be attributed to any "one" person as those are verbal stories handed down for generations.

Please note that this story is Inconsistent with native story forms, Native Stories do NOT contain the 'Moral of the story' at the end like non-native stories do.

For instance:
The story in Native Form would be:

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.
"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

Non-Natives would add this to the story:

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

This difference is social-religious between the two cultures and is a good way to tell which stories maybe of native origin, and which are not.

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Which Wolf Will You Feed? [View all] mother earth Jan 2013 OP
I like this get the red out Jan 2013 #1
Forgiveness frees yourself from energetic/karmic attachment. The other party Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #2
I very much support freeing onself get the red out Jan 2013 #4
Believe me I am struggling with the same thing ... mntleo2 Jan 2013 #5
I understand the self-blame game get the red out Jan 2013 #6
"The Great Condemner" tama Jan 2013 #8
The story.... Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #9
I'd first seen this story/metaphor as an American Indian answering a child's question Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #10
That makes more sense. Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #11
The part of the Bible which interests me is that Christ taught we are spirit, Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #12
Thank you, I find that fascinating get the red out Jan 2013 #13
Does it matter if the story is truly of native origin? Aren't we really talking about explaining mother earth Jan 2013 #14
Does it matter? Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #16
TY, WS, sorry if my OP was offensive to anyone. mother earth Jan 2013 #18
I wasn't offended! Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #19
You have given me some food for thought ... mntleo2 Jan 2013 #15
What wonderful Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #17
Love that metaphor. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #3
Good story tama Jan 2013 #7
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