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In reply to the discussion: There was no Jesus [View all]Attilatheblond
(4,245 posts)44. Thought this theory was interesting & logical: Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
https://theobjectivestandard.com/2021/04/creating-christ-how-roman-emperors-invented-christianity-by-james-valliant-and-warren-fahy/]
The part about Jesus saying render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render onto God what is God's might have been a bonus thought up by some ass kissing Roman tax collector. Pretty sure Caesar would likely have loved that part.
So, was it really a clever political invention? Hmm, as I look about at what passes for Christianity now, and perhaps for my lifetime, there certainly is/has been a lot of political power harvested of the seeds 'Jesus' is said to have planted. A lot of editing over the years. All political in nature and exercise. We sure let powerful people/political structures roll over us in the name of 'believing'.
Christianity was created by the Roman state, and the New Testament was Roman propaganda designed to pacify fanatically rebellious Jews. This is the boldly original thesis James Valliant and Warren Fahy present in Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity.
The Romans dominated a vast polyglot, multicultural, religiously tolerant empire of conquered nations. They adroitly co-opted the gods and customs of subjugated peoples as a means of assimilating enemy tribes under their political hegemony.
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Religious fanatics from the Middle East are waging an assault on Western Civilization, and have just struck a demoralizing blow to the very capital of foreign decadence. Leery of war with an entire people, the West acknowledges only advocates of peace to be true followers of the terrorists religion. Indeed, Western leaders claim that their attackers own dogma commands peace.
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The year is 66 C.E. The civilization under attack is the Roman Empire. And the terrorists: an ancient fanatical sect of Judaism
The Romans dominated a vast polyglot, multicultural, religiously tolerant empire of conquered nations. They adroitly co-opted the gods and customs of subjugated peoples as a means of assimilating enemy tribes under their political hegemony.
...
Religious fanatics from the Middle East are waging an assault on Western Civilization, and have just struck a demoralizing blow to the very capital of foreign decadence. Leery of war with an entire people, the West acknowledges only advocates of peace to be true followers of the terrorists religion. Indeed, Western leaders claim that their attackers own dogma commands peace.
...
The year is 66 C.E. The civilization under attack is the Roman Empire. And the terrorists: an ancient fanatical sect of Judaism
The part about Jesus saying render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render onto God what is God's might have been a bonus thought up by some ass kissing Roman tax collector. Pretty sure Caesar would likely have loved that part.
So, was it really a clever political invention? Hmm, as I look about at what passes for Christianity now, and perhaps for my lifetime, there certainly is/has been a lot of political power harvested of the seeds 'Jesus' is said to have planted. A lot of editing over the years. All political in nature and exercise. We sure let powerful people/political structures roll over us in the name of 'believing'.
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It only matters as an objective response to the Mike Johnsons of the world...
Thunderbeast
Feb 2024
#7
The "Golden Rule" exists in all the major religious and spiritual traditions,
Ocelot II
Feb 2024
#29
But those are basic 'good' human traits that go all the way back, way before the Jesus thing, aren't they?
Think. Again.
Feb 2024
#53
The greatest lesson of the Bible - don't fuck with the men who has the money and the power
Probatim
Feb 2024
#56
Thought this theory was interesting & logical: Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
Attilatheblond
Feb 2024
#44