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Mariana

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45. There you go, Iggo.

Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:34 PM

Apr 2019

Asking for evidence to support a story, and disbelieving it until such evidence is provided, indicates that you are "a deranged wacko who has been personally attacked and whose world view is in danger of falling off a cliff." Also, you are "rabid when a difference of opinion is expressed." For disbelieving a story that sounds like it was told to a group of kids sitting around a campfire.

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Using Bible apologetics sites as information about things [View all] MineralMan Apr 2019 OP

But this apologetics site says there is no evidence that what I want to believe *didn't* happen. trotsky Apr 2019 #1

A lack of evidence for non-existence is just a lack of evidence. MineralMan Apr 2019 #2

I read those as well edhopper Apr 2019 #26

Fanciful speculations are attractive to some if they seem to explain MineralMan Apr 2019 #27

On another board edhopper Apr 2019 #29

Not surprising, really. MineralMan Apr 2019 #30

The epitome of the appeal to ignorance fallacy Major Nikon Apr 2019 #41

To be fair, that's exactly how religious belief often works. trotsky Apr 2019 #55

"faith" in a religious context is exactly an appeal to ignorance fallacy Major Nikon Apr 2019 #57

It's sad about von Dniken. We now know that ancient people could and did cross oceans Nitram Apr 2019 #3

I've never thought it was sad. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

As a child we had a photographic book of his Kon-Tiki expedition, and it captured my imagination. Nitram Apr 2019 #5

The interesting thing about the Kon-Tiki thing was that MineralMan Apr 2019 #6

Ha! You're right. Now I remember who Von Daniken was. Chariots of the gods and all that crap. Nitram Apr 2019 #17

Just because you want something to be true, does not make it any more true Major Nikon Apr 2019 #7

Religion has its own privilege. MineralMan Apr 2019 #8

Hearing voices and hallucinations are generally associated with mental illness Major Nikon Apr 2019 #11

Most opinions are based on interpreting secondhand/acquired knowledge. That led Karadeniz Apr 2019 #9

Um... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #10

Spiritual experience? What is that? MineralMan Apr 2019 #15

Don't ask me I haven't had one... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #16

The neurosurgeon who wrote about his own near death experience explained how he knows his brain Karadeniz Apr 2019 #20

NDE have long been debunked edhopper Apr 2019 #25

From what I've read, the dying brain theory has been disproven. But to each, his own. Karadeniz Apr 2019 #40

So you haven''t read the actual neuroscience edhopper Apr 2019 #49

lol Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #56

Luther said he was depressed at his inadequacy, but landed on Paul's grace statement. Karadeniz Apr 2019 #19

But, you see, the initial premise that MineralMan Apr 2019 #12

They seem so certain... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #13

Faith is their substitute for evidence, the substance of MineralMan Apr 2019 #14

But...would you accept a personal experience as evidence? Perhaps you might if you knew Karadeniz Apr 2019 #39

Not necessarily. MineralMan Apr 2019 #46

You're right. No one can prove the existence of a different reality. What about the child Karadeniz Apr 2019 #21

Do you have a link to a first-hand account of that story? MineralMan Apr 2019 #23

I could go to my kindle and list all the books I've read on the subject, but I don't think it's a Karadeniz Apr 2019 #35

Or you can read real science edhopper Apr 2019 #50

You're suggesting reading real science? Mariana Apr 2019 #51

What child are you talking about? Mariana Apr 2019 #28

I was conveying the gist of one of hundreds of reports made of survival after physical death. I Karadeniz Apr 2019 #33

You presented no evidence or corroboration at all. Mariana Apr 2019 #34

Please see my reply to mineralman in which I give resources. Sorry that my post Karadeniz Apr 2019 #36

You didn't provide a single example Major Nikon Apr 2019 #43

This is a discussion board. Mariana Apr 2019 #44

Never happened.* Iggo Apr 2019 #31

You can refer to my reply to MineralMan. The researchable evidence has been done for you Karadeniz Apr 2019 #37

Which book by which author contains that story? Iggo Apr 2019 #42

There you go, Iggo. Mariana Apr 2019 #45

Yeah, I caught that. Iggo Apr 2019 #47

It'll be pretty easy for anyone who reads this thread Mariana Apr 2019 #54

I'm still waiting for a source for that dead cousin MineralMan Apr 2019 #32

Please see my reply above. Those resources won't contain that particular story;that was in a Karadeniz Apr 2019 #38

I saw your post. MineralMan Apr 2019 #48

"Biblical scholars agree..." Iggo Apr 2019 #18

An additional reminder, to those who would link to such sites: Mariana Apr 2019 #22

Quite true, but that takes a deeper dive into MineralMan Apr 2019 #24

Wackadooism - perfect description. Permanut Apr 2019 #52

I know who von Danikenn is. akraven Apr 2019 #53