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zipplewrath

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5. You've just about defined every governmental authority in the world.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

Women are treated differently, and generally they consider it inferior in almost every country on earth. Some vastly worse than others though.

There are ranges of ideas that are "tolerated" in societies. Any outside of those are in someways restricted. More so in some countries than others. Most can "ban" certain ideas from being discussed in various public contexts.

Immunity: Almost every country extends some sort of immunity, especially for "leaders" (or at least the powerful). It is more formal in some contexts than others.

Restriction of personal lives: Most societies demand that you conform to a set of "normalities" especially in intimate relationships. Polygamy, homosexuality, beastiality, pedophilia, etc. are variably restricted or outright banned in most countries to some extent or another.

Attempting to control those not in the group: This is the toughest one since the definition of "group" needs some work. Every country restricts what non-citizens can do. Many countries restrict what various members outside of some defined group within the citizens can do. Age, gender, ethnicity, and in some countries, military or police members have "special" privileges that others do not.

Threatening punishment: That's pretty much how most legal systems work. Most of us avoid going anywhere near the legal system because it involves a threat of "losing". Our drug war, and it's tendency to criminalize behavior that is difficult to justify being criminal is just one example.

Of course we have the benefit in this country, and western European countries of electing those that do these things. In much of the world this is not true. In this country right now there are alot of discussions about just how much the rich and powerful actually do the choosing.

You make allusions to religious organizations which in effect become "extra-governmental" authorities. Of course this exists because for a significant time, they were in the hierarchy of governmental authority. Today, it is why countries like China aren't fond of institutions like the Catholic church, because they represent challenges to their authority.

Speaking of Intolerance... [View all] MineralMan Feb 2019 OP
For a pretty simple word, it sure has gotten a lot of mileage lately. Thanks for posting this... SWBTATTReg Feb 2019 #1
People in glass cathedrals... MineralMan Feb 2019 #2
Don't forget the paradox... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #3
Yes, exactly. MineralMan Feb 2019 #4
Logic doesn't go far in many instances. marylandblue Feb 2019 #7
A type of, dare I say it, "civic faith"? eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #12
Faith trumps reason all the time Major Nikon Feb 2019 #8
It should not. MineralMan Feb 2019 #10
You've just about defined every governmental authority in the world. zipplewrath Feb 2019 #5
I find intolerance an overused word with too flexible a definition. marylandblue Feb 2019 #6
Discrimination is intolerance in the action stage Major Nikon Feb 2019 #9
Like I said, intolerance is overused, too much shoehorned into one little word. marylandblue Feb 2019 #14
So the Chinese concentration camps for theists guillaumeb Feb 2019 #16
For someone who obsesses over this issue, I'd expect you to be better educated Major Nikon Feb 2019 #17
And do you every use hyperbolic language? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #19
"ever" Major Nikon Feb 2019 #22
Who is immune from intolerance? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #11
You appear to only condemn it when it suits you. MineralMan Feb 2019 #13
And you appear to deflect when you cannot refute. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #15
You post about China because you are intolerant towards atheists Major Nikon Feb 2019 #18
And you post about theism because..... guillaumeb Feb 2019 #20
Because I read the title of the group before I posted Major Nikon Feb 2019 #21
Is this not the Religion Group? MineralMan Feb 2019 #23
Didn't happen Cartoonist Feb 2019 #24
But it did. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #27
Yes we.should ask "why you are posting this?" marylandblue Feb 2019 #28
If intolerance directed by theists is a fit subject, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #29
The OP is not about intolerance directed by theists. marylandblue Feb 2019 #30
The post is about theists being the objects of intolerance. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #31
The post does not mention theists or religion. marylandblue Feb 2019 #35
Or should we condemn intolerance, and recognize that it is everywhere? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #37
I don't think that is so obvious at all marylandblue Feb 2019 #40
And, speaking if starting a new thread, and ironically enough, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #32
Sorry, that's just me, a human being human. marylandblue Feb 2019 #33
If you did understand...... guillaumeb Feb 2019 #34
All characteristics are human characteristics. marylandblue Feb 2019 #36
Are you ever surprised to find that humans are intolerant? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #38
I'm surprised that so many people seem to think marylandblue Feb 2019 #39
A well written post from Mineral Man Bretton Garcia Feb 2019 #25
That's very kind of you to say. MineralMan Feb 2019 #26
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