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trotsky

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11. My goodness you must enjoy humiliating yourself.

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:13 PM

Feb 2019

The Chinese Government, in fact, does all that it can to discourage religious belief, going so far as to literally place spies in religious households, and going even farther by building concentration camps for theists.

That may be true, but what about the billion Chinese people in the country? How do they behave, and how does religion affect their behavior? That's the real comparison, right? You know that, RIGHT?

I mean, you wouldn't just be running to your favorite #whataboutism topic just out of habit, would you? And making a complete mockery of your own position in the process?

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Religion turns children into assholes [View all] Major Nikon Feb 2019 OP

The money shot: trotsky Feb 2019 #1

Here's the best part: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #2

"moral licensing" is a phenomena that is well studied Major Nikon Feb 2019 #3

An anecdotal but hilarious example: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #4

An interesting paper. MineralMan Feb 2019 #5

That's a major part of the paper - that parental reporting doesn't reflect an objective measure muriel_volestrangler Feb 2019 #68

From the study: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #6

The study didn't examine any people in China, so they wouldn't MineralMan Feb 2019 #7

They actually did look at China, and it works the same there too. marylandblue Feb 2019 #8

Ah. OK. Thanks! MineralMan Feb 2019 #9

The study looked at children, not governments. marylandblue Feb 2019 #10

Which brings up a further question. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #13

That question is not relevant to the study. marylandblue Feb 2019 #15

Governments are composed of people. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #17

Well the study shows that children without religion behave better marylandblue Feb 2019 #18

The study seems to support that reading. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #19

The lead authors are child psychologists marylandblue Feb 2019 #23

The so-called "soft sciences". guillaumeb Feb 2019 #25

I have no idea about that. marylandblue Feb 2019 #28

And if the studies cannot be reproduced, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #30

Well that can certainly be a problem in social science. marylandblue Feb 2019 #32

You'd have to be anti-vax level of stupid to think otherwise Major Nikon Feb 2019 #39

Well this one supports what gil wants to believe. trotsky Feb 2019 #45

My goodness you must enjoy humiliating yourself. trotsky Feb 2019 #11

The Chinese Government is composed of..... guillaumeb Feb 2019 #14

Why are you so obsessed with China? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #38

Naw his agenda is more sneaky. trotsky Feb 2019 #41

I'm also pretty sure he has me on Ignore PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #42

Lucky bastard Major Nikon Feb 2019 #49

I do not ignore, nor do I alert. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #56

Heads I win, tails you lose Major Nikon Feb 2019 #47

I dunno, seems to me like gil believes he is in a holy war with atheism. trotsky Feb 2019 #50

Well, he says he receives numerous personal messages Mariana Feb 2019 #51

The tactic is known as shitposting Major Nikon Feb 2019 #54

And this post? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #57

I didn't think it was all that vague Major Nikon Feb 2019 #59

Look in the mirror, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #61

I tend to reject advice advice Major Nikon Feb 2019 #63

More echoing. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #65

You seem to think I give a shit what your lame accusation means Major Nikon Feb 2019 #66

This should be our collective response... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #53

You might ask why some few here are so obsessed with demonizing theists. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #55

What's the ratio, gil? trotsky Feb 2019 #40

Literally every atheist in china Lordquinton Feb 2019 #20

Your questions are on a macro level that the study didn't address Major Nikon Feb 2019 #12

Well noted. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #16

no real history of theism, save that imposed by European colonialists. Lordquinton Feb 2019 #21

There is a territorial overlap in north western China. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #22

You know, if you're going to nitpick others for their typos... trotsky Feb 2019 #43

I sat down and laughed at that one. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #58

Nor is anyone else Major Nikon Feb 2019 #60

Be best? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #62

Sure you do Major Nikon Feb 2019 #64

This forum is open to all. No "safe space" here, though you clearly wish it were. trotsky Feb 2019 #69

Speaks the poster who claims to hate me, and who claimed that I ruined DU. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #71

Oh there's no claim about it. I've stated exactly how I feel about you. trotsky Feb 2019 #72

The "many theists" argument again. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #73

When you start proving your unfounded claims - starting with your incredible "fan club"... trotsky Feb 2019 #74

As I thought. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #75

Great. trotsky Feb 2019 #76

Interesting. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #44

Gil's got an interesting take on history, eh? n/t trotsky Feb 2019 #46

About as interesting as Mel Gibson's, I'd say. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #48

Interesting view of history Lordquinton Feb 2019 #52

Chinese theism predates your Christianity Major Nikon Feb 2019 #24

My reply: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #26

Your thought process here resembles a scalded cat Major Nikon Feb 2019 #27

Your asssertion about the Chinese and theism guillaumeb Feb 2019 #29

Focus Major Nikon Feb 2019 #33

You decide to ignore what you cannot refute. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #34

Your assertion was the Chinese have no history of theism Major Nikon Feb 2019 #35

Keep ignoring what you cannot refute. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #36

Sure, Gil. The burden of disproving you is always on others Major Nikon Feb 2019 #37

It's almost as if it is weird form of... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #67

And what a performance it is. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #70

And speaking of soft science: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #31