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In reply to the discussion: So, Was Jesus Just a Metaphor? [View all]
So, Was Jesus Just a Metaphor? [View all] MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
Just another hero myth archetype JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #1
So Joseph Campbell would say, I'm sure. MineralMan Dec 2018 #10
I love the Bill Moyers discussion with Joseph Campbell. in2herbs Dec 2018 #26
That can be extended to Moses, Mohammed, Buddha, etc still_one Dec 2018 #2
That's the question, isn't it? MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
For some answers archeology still_one Dec 2018 #23
I'm pretty sure The Buddha was a real historical person. rickford66 Dec 2018 #79
which one? still_one Dec 2018 #82
The bible was written by men.... Catamount Dec 2018 #3
Oh, I've made up my mind. MineralMan Dec 2018 #9
And men (perhaps a few women) that saw some light and then saw another erronis Dec 2018 #29
Jonah? Religions are akin to folklore where stories are retold to make points... TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #4
Paul Bunyan? MineralMan Dec 2018 #6
Oooh. I'd forgotten about Paul Bunyan, the giant among men - obviously a GOD. erronis Dec 2018 #30
Episcopalian Bishop John Shelby Strong takes that position marylandblue Dec 2018 #5
Yes, he does. MineralMan Dec 2018 #7
That's why religion is more than just a bunch of beliefs and metaphors marylandblue Dec 2018 #13
Yah, well, ok. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
Not impressed, huh? Maybe I'll put that idea an in an OP someday. marylandblue Dec 2018 #15
Please do. MineralMan Dec 2018 #19
But religion is also used to enforce conformity and penalize heretics - shunning, murder, etc. erronis Dec 2018 #33
Didn't say it was "just" shared meaning marylandblue Dec 2018 #41
I really appreciate your sincerity. Thanks for hanging in there with a bunch of contrarians! erronis Dec 2018 #45
Thanks. You're welcome. Cheers. marylandblue Dec 2018 #53
We tried to have that discussion once Lordquinton Dec 2018 #87
Separating what should be taken metaphorically from what what should be taken literally is easy The Genealogist Dec 2018 #11
I Can't buy that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
Which part? The Genealogist Dec 2018 #16
Any of it. MineralMan Dec 2018 #17
Some events in the Bible are historically confirmed marylandblue Dec 2018 #20
OK. That does not mean the rest is true. MineralMan Dec 2018 #24
Yes, that's true, but now that I think about it, metaphor is the wrong description marylandblue Dec 2018 #42
Israelite King Omri is mentioned in the Mesha Stele The Genealogist Dec 2018 #28
Historically confirmed events are not proof of supernatural causations Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #62
I didn't say they were. marylandblue Dec 2018 #64
Then what's the point of bringing them up? Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #65
Because historians use the Bible as an historical source marylandblue Dec 2018 #66
"Biblical historians" do that. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #74
ok, whatever. marylandblue Dec 2018 #75
There is a much broader area of history Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #86
I am still not really sure what your point is. marylandblue Dec 2018 #89
That is my conclusion as well. The Genealogist Dec 2018 #21
Expressing your personal opinion as a fact? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #31
Try telling that to those that are being burnt at a stake or having their heads lopped off. erronis Dec 2018 #35
I'd love how someone could twist "beat your slave, but don't kill them" into being metaphorical. Oneironaut Dec 2018 #40
There are some who try to parse the wheat from the chaff Major Nikon Dec 2018 #18
Yes. Jefferson extracted the common moral MineralMan Dec 2018 #22
I think I heard somewhere There was a big flood at the time of the Noah myth. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #25
Um. No. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #43
? LakeArenal Dec 2018 #44
Where have I been? saidsimplesimon Dec 2018 #27
There are few references to Jesus in pagan writings Raven123 Dec 2018 #32
And those sources you reference substantiated their writings? erronis Dec 2018 #39
All of that was written later. MineralMan Dec 2018 #52
More research on Flavius Josephus should make you question him as a resource Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #60
Interesting point. Who were the chroniclers? Raven123 Dec 2018 #67
I can give a couple Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #70
I am aware of Philo, but not Gallio Raven123 Dec 2018 #71
Josephus was Jewish. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #69
Point taken. However inthis minds of some "was" is the operative. They viewed him as a traitor. Raven123 Dec 2018 #72
Probably not, but why do you care??? Let people believe what they want. Dream Girl Dec 2018 #34
Why do you ask? MineralMan Dec 2018 #37
This is the Religion Group. We discuss religion here. Mariana Dec 2018 #48
Subtext is if you believe in God you are really not too bright... Dream Girl Dec 2018 #49
I don't think that's true. Mariana Dec 2018 #50
No subtext. It's a valid question. MineralMan Dec 2018 #51
Well there is a correlation. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #54
There was a flood... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #36
There are many myths. MineralMan Dec 2018 #38
Jesus is probably like Robin Hood; there was probably at least one real person at the core LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #46
Could be. MineralMan Dec 2018 #47
In what sense? Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #55
True. Robin Hood was just a guy who MineralMan Dec 2018 #56
There's plenty of archeological evidence of zombie prevention methods Major Nikon Dec 2018 #57
There was probably a preacher named Jesus or a variant who gained some notoriety; that story LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #58
There were lots of "preachers". Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #59
The historical core would have no miraculous elements marylandblue Dec 2018 #63
Yes the "historical jesus" dodge substitutes Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #73
I am not sure why this is a dodge marylandblue Dec 2018 #76
It is a dodge for exactly the reasons I stated. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #85
Socrates is actually pretty well documented as ancient people go marylandblue Dec 2018 #88
Some may be true but those events have nothing to do with the supernatural Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #61
I'm glad you hang out with us and ask the hard questions, littlemissmartypants Dec 2018 #68
Hey, thanks! MineralMan Dec 2018 #83
No. Jesus is an exclamation of shock. Kablooie Dec 2018 #77
All communication is metaphorical Loki Liesmith Dec 2018 #78
"To be truthful means to employ the usual metaphors." - Nietzsche Jim__ Dec 2018 #81
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That switch cover! Occasionally one shows up on eBay. MineralMan Dec 2018 #84
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