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MineralMan

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14. Dorothy was a good person, Catholic or not.

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 03:43 PM

Dec 2018

I don't care whether she is recognized, sainted, or anything else. She did good work. We have a Dorothy Day center for the homeless here in the Twin Cities. I very much disagree, however, with her position on contraception and abortion. I don't know if she ever prevented an abortion nor whether she stopped anyone from using contraception. If so, then I condemn her for doing those things.

Her being a Catholic, I think, had not much to do with her character, frankly. Now, she's dead and can do neither good nor harm. What the RCC does about her is irrelevant.

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Dorothy Day--'a saint for our times' [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP

I love Doris Day Cartoonist Dec 2018 #1

Another day, for another time. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #3

From the same article: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2

Was Dorothy Day a good person because of her religion? trotsky Dec 2018 #4

She was, in my view, a good person. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5

Mainly because of this passage from the article you posted: trotsky Dec 2018 #6

What does this have to do with your question? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9

You're the one promoting her "social action." trotsky Dec 2018 #12

I agree. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #20

Further information for those interested: trotsky Dec 2018 #8

Did she have a right to her opinion? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10

"opposed to taking life" WTF?!? trotsky Dec 2018 #13

Gil has told us before Mariana Dec 2018 #15

Well crap, I forgot all about that. trotsky Dec 2018 #17

You mischaracterized what I said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21

I did no such thing. Mariana Dec 2018 #25

How can someone mischaracterize a direct quote of your words? trotsky Dec 2018 #37

A nice call out, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22

Bull-fucking-shit. trotsky Dec 2018 #34

She was opposed to both contraception and abortion. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16

Which of course denies women agency over Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #18

Yes. I don't know,whether she actually acted on that, though. MineralMan Dec 2018 #19

But according to g-man, we should praise her as a liberal icon. trotsky Dec 2018 #35

We need some miracles from her first. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #7

So, the part that resonates with you is Day joining your little club? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #11

What an interesting response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #23

It's your mess, Bill. You clean it up. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #33

Dorothy was a good person, Catholic or not. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14

I agree with her position, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24

So you keep saying, Guy... MineralMan Dec 2018 #26

Gil is pro-choice Mariana Dec 2018 #27

Hmm...It's easy for men. They never face the dilemma. MineralMan Dec 2018 #28

Men don't have to decide Mariana Dec 2018 #30

You're right about that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #31

Your framing is not supportable. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #39

You stated them yourself, Gil, several times. Mariana Dec 2018 #40

Michael Harrington worked with her. His 1962 book The Other America led to The War on Poverty's prog bobbieinok Dec 2018 #29

Thank you for this reminder. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41

I remembered someone important was connected to Day. His name finally came to me bobbieinok Dec 2018 #42

Poverty in the US was ignored, as poor people continue to be ignored. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43

Thank you for the 2 recommendations. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47

I find it difficult to believe anyone the RCC thinks is Saintworthy is a good person. bitterross Dec 2018 #32

Great post. trotsky Dec 2018 #36

The RCC uses the process as a PR move Major Nikon Dec 2018 #38

She died in 1980. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #44

That makes it SO much better. bitterross Dec 2018 #49

That is your opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #52

What miracles do they say she performed edhopper Dec 2018 #45

The title is an opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #46

Ok edhopper Dec 2018 #48

Someone, somewhere had an ingrown toenail cured, I'm sure of it. bitterross Dec 2018 #50

very true edhopper Dec 2018 #51