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trotsky

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8. Further information for those interested:
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 03:15 PM
Dec 2018
http://subcreators.com/blog/2012/11/24/dorothy-day-birth-control-and-abortion-another-form-of-genocide/

Here’s an extraordinary quote from Dorothy Day, Catholic radical lover of the poor and peace activist – who was also a post-abortive mother. It comes from a 1974 interview with Hubert Jessup on a Boston TV station.

Well, we’re living in an era of genocide. I mean, after the Holocaust…which led to the Second World War…which went on…War itself is a holocaust. And, we’re still thinking in terms of war—the whole government…how much of our taxes go for war…a greater amount this year that ever before. And, so we’re pacifist as well as anarchist…and…we do believe that there is…not only the genocide of war—the genocide that took place in the extermination of Jews—but, the whole program—I’m speaking now as a Catholic—of birth control and abortion, is another form of genocide.

There’s many theories about birth control, many theories about a population going to seed when they’re poverty stricken—a neglected orchard, for instance—it goes to seed…and, so, they claim the poor are bringing forth tremendous numbers of children, and the “solution” is to kill them off—the seed that is dead seed—by whatever methods they use: whether it’s intra-uterine devices, or the pill—about which they’re very dubious. But, I’m just saying that, when it comes to Mexicans, and Filipinos, and the Blacks in this country—they’re the ones who are multiplying. And, a great many of them believe that this is— the educated too—that the whole problem’s…the whole program of birth control and abortion, is a way of keeping down the population of the poor.
I love Doris Day Cartoonist Dec 2018 #1
Another day, for another time. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #3
From the same article: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
Was Dorothy Day a good person because of her religion? trotsky Dec 2018 #4
She was, in my view, a good person. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
Mainly because of this passage from the article you posted: trotsky Dec 2018 #6
What does this have to do with your question? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
You're the one promoting her "social action." trotsky Dec 2018 #12
I agree. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #20
Further information for those interested: trotsky Dec 2018 #8
Did she have a right to her opinion? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
"opposed to taking life" WTF?!? trotsky Dec 2018 #13
Gil has told us before Mariana Dec 2018 #15
Well crap, I forgot all about that. trotsky Dec 2018 #17
You mischaracterized what I said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21
I did no such thing. Mariana Dec 2018 #25
How can someone mischaracterize a direct quote of your words? trotsky Dec 2018 #37
A nice call out, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22
Bull-fucking-shit. trotsky Dec 2018 #34
She was opposed to both contraception and abortion. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16
Which of course denies women agency over Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #18
Yes. I don't know,whether she actually acted on that, though. MineralMan Dec 2018 #19
But according to g-man, we should praise her as a liberal icon. trotsky Dec 2018 #35
We need some miracles from her first. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #7
So, the part that resonates with you is Day joining your little club? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #11
What an interesting response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #23
It's your mess, Bill. You clean it up. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #33
Dorothy was a good person, Catholic or not. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14
I agree with her position, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24
So you keep saying, Guy... MineralMan Dec 2018 #26
Gil is pro-choice Mariana Dec 2018 #27
Hmm...It's easy for men. They never face the dilemma. MineralMan Dec 2018 #28
Men don't have to decide Mariana Dec 2018 #30
You're right about that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #31
Your framing is not supportable. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #39
You stated them yourself, Gil, several times. Mariana Dec 2018 #40
Michael Harrington worked with her. His 1962 book The Other America led to The War on Poverty's prog bobbieinok Dec 2018 #29
Thank you for this reminder. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41
I remembered someone important was connected to Day. His name finally came to me bobbieinok Dec 2018 #42
Poverty in the US was ignored, as poor people continue to be ignored. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43
Thank you for the 2 recommendations. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47
I find it difficult to believe anyone the RCC thinks is Saintworthy is a good person. bitterross Dec 2018 #32
Great post. trotsky Dec 2018 #36
The RCC uses the process as a PR move Major Nikon Dec 2018 #38
She died in 1980. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #44
That makes it SO much better. bitterross Dec 2018 #49
That is your opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #52
What miracles do they say she performed edhopper Dec 2018 #45
The title is an opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #46
Ok edhopper Dec 2018 #48
Someone, somewhere had an ingrown toenail cured, I'm sure of it. bitterross Dec 2018 #50
very true edhopper Dec 2018 #51
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