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MineralMan

(147,024 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:12 AM Nov 2018

When It Comes to Religious Belief, Disagreement Is NOT Intolerance. [View all]

Religion is based on belief or faith, rather than facts. No two people believe exactly the same. In a broader sample, people believe a very wide rage of things if they are religious. Even within religions, differences exist in exactly what is believed. The vast number of denominations of Christianity demonstrates that.

For those who are not religious, such beliefs are thought to be incorrect and to be mere emotional responses to unanswerable questions. It is never intolerant to say, "I do not believe as you do." It is not intolerant to say, "I do not believe that any supernatural entities exist." That is merely disagreement.

What is intolerant is an expressed opinion that a person should be treated differently based on belief or nonbelief of some religious dogma. The nonbeliever is not a lesser person for that lack of belief, nor is the believer diminished in importance based on belief. Both should be treated equally. To treat a person as less than an equal is intolerance. Mere disagreement is not intolerance.

In most situations, discussion of religious belief is a waste of time. Here, in the Religion Group on DU, that sort of discussion is the order of the day, however. It is not intolerant here to either claim that a belief is true nor to claim that it has no merit. It is merely discussion where people do not agree with each other.

What is intolerant in religious discussions is making accusations of intolerance when only a disagreement occurs.

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When it comes to intolerance, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #1
Oh, Poo, Guy! MineralMan Nov 2018 #2
I gave your post all of the response that it merited. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #3
Actually, you don't understand at all. MineralMan Nov 2018 #4
You are amazing. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #5
Thanks! MineralMan Nov 2018 #6
Happy to say it!! eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #7
Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #15
What an interesting defense. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #18
Most people learned in primary school to not dish it out if you can't take it Major Nikon Nov 2018 #20
And other than insults, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #24
The same as yours Major Nikon Nov 2018 #29
Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #14
By "nobody else", do you mean none of the other responders? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17
I mean nobody north of a room temperature IQ Major Nikon Nov 2018 #21
This reminds me of a certain politician. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #25
This reminds me that nobody of note agrees with you about Russell Major Nikon Nov 2018 #28
An attempt at humor? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #37
More like laughing at unintentional humor Major Nikon Nov 2018 #39
Have you ever read Russell's many early quotes about race? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #41
Sure, why don't you also remind us how Robert Byrd was a KKK member Major Nikon Nov 2018 #44
I can only assume that you have not read them. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #45
Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups Major Nikon Nov 2018 #46
You certainly like ad hominem arguments. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #47
A shame you didn't pay better attention Major Nikon Nov 2018 #48
More evidence, if any were needed. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #49
More evidence you didn't pay attention Major Nikon Nov 2018 #50
Off topic but Ewell is cool Bradshaw3 Nov 2018 #51
His weight loss makes him look younger Major Nikon Nov 2018 #53
I don't agree with Russell's attitude towards religion, but he isn't intolerant marylandblue Nov 2018 #10
He called theists contemptible. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #11
Rudeness is not intolerance. Please don't confabulate the two. marylandblue Nov 2018 #12
Do you feel insulted by his comments? MineralMan Nov 2018 #13
I feel sad for him that he was so openly contemptuous to theists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #16
You feel sad for Bertrand Russell? MineralMan Nov 2018 #19
"Showing the limits of his progressivism and his intelligence." Major Nikon Nov 2018 #34
I feel sad for him that he is so openly contemptuous to atheists. MineralMan Nov 2018 #35
It must really suck to go through life harboring such extreme intolerance. Major Nikon Nov 2018 #36
Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #22
The actual quote: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #26
Thanks for once again proving you have absolutely no clue what Russell is saying Major Nikon Nov 2018 #30
I almost hate to point this out, but Einstein was an atheist. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #38
You also just proved you have no clue what Einstein was saying Major Nikon Nov 2018 #40
The friendly atheist, among others, disagrees with you. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #42
"I'm not an atheist" -- Albert Einstein Major Nikon Nov 2018 #43
That's not a statement of intolerance. It is merely a statement of opinion. MineralMan Nov 2018 #31
This is obvious to most Major Nikon Nov 2018 #32
A hit dog will holler. MineralMan Nov 2018 #33
I've been tolerating them all day every day for fifty-seven fucking years. Iggo Nov 2018 #8
Yes, indeed. MineralMan Nov 2018 #9
Meanwhile almost without exception, western organized religion is actually intolerant Major Nikon Nov 2018 #23
People with the very same religion can't even agree on scripture interpretation luvallpeeps Nov 2018 #27
Unfortuinately zipplewrath Nov 2018 #52
I'm afraid I don't see the relevance of your reply to MineralMan Nov 2018 #54
Explain zipplewrath Nov 2018 #55
Criticism is not intolerance. Mariana Nov 2018 #56
I think I'll just let my posts stand on their own. MineralMan Nov 2018 #57
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