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Mariana

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7. Muhammed doesn't consider women to be people.

Reply to Voltaire2 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:57 AM

Oct 2018

"O People, it is true that you have certain rights over your women, but they also have rights over you."

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Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad Addressing Social Justice and Gender [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2018 OP

In which women are the property of men Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #1

I realize that posts such as this "ruin" this group for you and a few others. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #2

Are you kidding, who doesn't love a good train wreck? Major Nikon Oct 2018 #3

Muhammed doesn't consider women to be people. Mariana Oct 2018 #7

No he's a great feminist ally. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #8

Without trying to sound like an apologist... TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #30

... over the ensuing 1500 years, no one else has tried to change it. Mariana Oct 2018 #32

Nolo Contendere. nt TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #34

You what would have a great topic for his last sermon? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #4

Lol TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #31

He also said to humanly treat slaves edhopper Oct 2018 #5

You do know that slavery was quite common at that time. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #24

So is treating woman as second class edhopper Oct 2018 #27

We are talking of someone living in the 10th century, guillaumeb Oct 2018 #28

Isn't all of Islam based on edhopper Oct 2018 #29

Moses brought the word of God Mariana Oct 2018 #33

So either it's just edhopper Oct 2018 #35

Why was slavery OK in the 10th century? trotsky Oct 2018 #39

Owning other people has never been OK. MineralMan Oct 2018 #40

What is your opinion of the content of your excerpt, Gil? nt. Mariana Oct 2018 #6

Who can say? MineralMan Oct 2018 #9

The prophet spoke of equality, guillaumeb Oct 2018 #25

Actually, Arabia was fairly tolerant prior to Mohammed marylandblue Oct 2018 #36

The comment about Arabia being tolerant is refuted rather well by history. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #37

Since this is well-refuted by history, surely you can provide many examples of such marylandblue Oct 2018 #38

Muhammad Speaks: Treat Your Property Well. MineralMan Oct 2018 #10

See, this kind of OP is what convinces me Gil is a troll. Mariana Oct 2018 #11

I don't know. Sometimes, I think he just doesn't read MineralMan Oct 2018 #12

There's not enough doubt for that benefit Major Nikon Oct 2018 #14

I'm being deliberately polite. MineralMan Oct 2018 #15

Admirable Major Nikon Oct 2018 #16

Perhaps, but still. MineralMan Oct 2018 #17

If this is an example of your politeness, guillaumeb Oct 2018 #19

I see. I have several already, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2018 #20

Perhaps you need help with them. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #21

No, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2018 #22

Think nothing of it. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #23

I will, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2018 #26

As if the child rape apologia wasn't convincing enough Major Nikon Oct 2018 #13

Ditto... NeoGreen Oct 2018 #18