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bitterross

(4,066 posts)

26. What a stupid premise in the poem.

Reply to guillaumeb (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:04 PM

Oct 2018

Every war and every conflict
between human beings has happened
because of some disagreement about names.

He starts off wrong and gets no better. Every war and and every conflict - even in the 13th century - is about fear. People fear loosing something they have. People fear not getting something the desire or believe the deserve. People fear that some one else's God is going to take things away from them and give them to their chosen people.

All of this is crystal clear in today's news and conflict over Judge Kavanaugh.

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Thoughts on religion: [View all] guillaumeb Sep 2018 OP

What are YOUR thoughts, Guy? MineralMan Sep 2018 #1

You know what you personally believe. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #3

That is not an answer. MineralMan Sep 2018 #4

Much of what you say here to theists, and the manner in which you choose to say it, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #6

Hey, at least he's up front and honest about what he believes. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #8

And upfront with insults and condescension. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #9

I see you've dropped back in to talk about me. MineralMan Oct 2018 #10

I already did. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #11

Are you a theist, Guy? MineralMan Oct 2018 #12

To help you: guillaumeb Oct 2018 #13

That is not an answer. MineralMan Oct 2018 #14

I believe in the Creator. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #15

Which creator? There are many. MineralMan Oct 2018 #16

I was raised in the RCC. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #17

That is also not an answer. MineralMan Oct 2018 #18

My answer is consistent with the poem that is the subject of this post. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #19

I cannot ask Rumi. MineralMan Oct 2018 #20

See #15. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #21

Perhaps, then, you are simply a deist. MineralMan Oct 2018 #22

Again, as my posts make obvious, guillaumeb Oct 2018 #23

Never mind, then. MineralMan Oct 2018 #24

We both have our own answers. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #25

You love this shit! PJMcK Oct 2018 #29

He appears to be a deist who calls himself a Christian marylandblue Oct 2018 #28

Well, of late, it looks like he's branching out. MineralMan Oct 2018 #31

Many formerly liberal Christians went further, like Gil. Bretton Garcia Oct 2018 #32

Thank you, Guillaumeb, as always for getting to the heart of why we all matter. cornball 24 Sep 2018 #2

Thank you. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #5

I am human. I am flawed. The life I've lived deserves no laud. So I pray cornball 24 Sep 2018 #7

What a stupid premise in the poem. bitterross Oct 2018 #26

Names are critical. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #27

You can't prove that. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #30

Your last sentence was by far the best part of your reply. eom guillaumeb Oct 2018 #33

Funny. The first two sentences are things you often say. marylandblue Oct 2018 #34

Look. See, they're not true when others say them. MineralMan Oct 2018 #36

Is that what the author meant? Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #35

That is my interpretation of Rumi's poem. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #37

Seriously? Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #38

It means whatever I say it means at the time I say what it means. MineralMan Oct 2018 #39

What is a name? guillaumeb Oct 2018 #40

I'm rubber and you're glue. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #41

No, it was your responses that did that. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #42