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You act as if I haven't heard this circular reasoning before Major Nikon Sep 2018 #1
Oy. I didn't realize I was acting. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #2
You act as if... that phrase does not mean you Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #3
Not agreeing with that. I can't, of course. So then, shall we begin with your Torah. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #4
The Jews know the Torah - and don't see Jesus in it. Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #5
The Rabbis used their own "sly" interpretations marylandblue Sep 2018 #10
I agree Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #12
All I asked primarily was does the Torah use words referring sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #16
Hard to say. Lots of names like Yahweh; Lord (Adonai) Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #17
I could see where that may be questioned. How you put it-- sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #18
The texts themselves hint, allude, prevaricate, equivocate, metaphoricalize Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #20
There's secular 'scholars'; then there's scholarly theologians. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #21
Both are useful counters to religious theologians Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #27
That was: scholarly theologians. Theologians who are scholarly. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #31
Still stands Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #32
Eastern Orthodox. I'm Slavic Orthodox descent. What is now Slovakia (Carpathian Mtn. Region). sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #33
No of course I don't believe that. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #6
Religion isn't a text, it's a tradition of interpretation and practice marylandblue Sep 2018 #7
The specific nonsense was a claim about the text. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #8
But it isn't murderous or intellectually dishonest today marylandblue Sep 2018 #9
Those who build on old murderous directives. .. are "just" the beneficiaries of murder. Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #13
We are all the beneficiaries of our murderous ancestors marylandblue Sep 2018 #19
Incoming--» sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #22
Your point appears to be that any claim about the Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #35
No, that is not my position marylandblue Sep 2018 #36
No it is just intellectually dishonest and tainted Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #14
I am intelluctuslly dishonest , bufnot particularily tainted perse sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #23
Nothing to do with you. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #24
It's also true that some bail on discussion around the point serious dialog is offered Major Nikon Sep 2018 #11
O-kay. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #15
Problem with this article is edhopper Sep 2018 #25
I don't think this saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #26
Just the 'act' alone of reading the whole of it is a good deal. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #29
I read some "interesting" replies claiming that Jesus is not found in the OT. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #28
Much more. Thank you, mon frere. eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #30
There were thousands of Jewish martyrs, would be Messiahs, from many tribes. Bretton Garcia Sep 2018 #34
You'd have to be very naive to believe the story wasn't doctored Major Nikon Sep 2018 #40
Are these literal references to the person Jesus, or metaphorical? marylandblue Sep 2018 #37
We all know the book of Psalm should be taken literally Major Nikon Sep 2018 #39
Interesting you'd think the best examples you could google support this claim Major Nikon Sep 2018 #38
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