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In reply to the discussion: This for 'someone' of 'rank' where we were in another thread and I dint get to [View all]Voltaire2
(14,427 posts)8. The specific nonsense was a claim about the text.
The claim is of course driven by the belief. However when that belief leads to specific claims about the real world we can evaluate it outside of the belief system.
Also the cited lineage of this claim puts it square in the middle of the murderous inter-Christian disputes over the true nature of Christ, with the triumphant orthodox side having to have the texts confirm an always existent Jesus.
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sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
OP
Not agreeing with that. I can't, of course. So then, shall we begin with your Torah.
sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
#4
The texts themselves hint, allude, prevaricate, equivocate, metaphoricalize
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#20
Eastern Orthodox. I'm Slavic Orthodox descent. What is now Slovakia (Carpathian Mtn. Region).
sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
#33
Those who build on old murderous directives. .. are "just" the beneficiaries of murder.
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#13
It's also true that some bail on discussion around the point serious dialog is offered
Major Nikon
Sep 2018
#11
I read some "interesting" replies claiming that Jesus is not found in the OT.
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#28
There were thousands of Jewish martyrs, would be Messiahs, from many tribes.
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#34
Interesting you'd think the best examples you could google support this claim
Major Nikon
Sep 2018
#38