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Croney

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27. As an atheist, I think this is exactly what churches should be doing.

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:57 PM

Sep 2018

Helping people in need. That's fine, if churches have to exist anyway. It's when their help is just an excuse for proselytizing, and the holier-than-thou declarations of God is Good! begin that I want to puke. Gimme a break.

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Faith-based disaster-relief teams on standby as Florence nears [View all] guillaumeb Sep 2018 OP

I guess this is eveidence that their prayers don't work... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #1

The prayers did work. If you had logged on to D.U. yesterday, you would have seen the video of 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #10

Hi there! sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #18

loving god causes creates and sends a disaster nt msongs Sep 2018 #2

No, He does not. And no, He did not. eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #8

Not the first cause? Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #12

No, it wasn't supposed to be this way. The only thing is how and what I (believe to) know sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #17

I'm just trying to understand what you believe your Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #19

Why do you say--»'gods'? sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #26

Seem to be at least three. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #36

The Triune God. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #37

Still seem to be gods. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #39

The Nous: Closed nous? Closed spirit. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #40

But you still have gods you claim are punishing Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #41

I can say no more. Not angry by any means. Have a good one. n/t sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #42

Oh my DOG. My 'godses' did not purposely create 'bad things' in order sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #85

So Jesus on the cross was asking himself why Jesus had forsaken Jesus? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #43

I am prepared to have y'all make something outta this. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #54

So Jesus isn't the "Father"? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #55

There is basis in the gospels. I provided some links explaining sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #57

There is no evidence in the synoptic gospels Major Nikon Sep 2018 #58

Christ is in the OT. He is not named, but is in there in types, figures, epiphanies. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #59

Believe it or not, so am I Major Nikon Sep 2018 #60

My afternoon isslippingaway. Why yes. Yes you are. (Mentioned.) sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #61

I'll be awaiting your worship Major Nikon Sep 2018 #62

That's not in the cards. But to honor you and give you some earthly deference is sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #63

Why not? The evidence is the same. Major Nikon Sep 2018 #64

'He' wouldn't give me a hard time. Just sayin'.... sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #65

Certainly "He" never gave anyone a hard time, right? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #66

Human beings are the cause of death, destruction and suffering. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #68

What about natural disasters? What did we do to cause those? marylandblue Sep 2018 #71

As our ' belief' is sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #77

Not according to your reference Major Nikon Sep 2018 #73

Yeah, I know. God's primary aim is to inflict hurt on the very creation He sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #79

How would you know either way? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #82

How would you know anyway? 😘 sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #83

I'm not claiming otherwise Major Nikon Sep 2018 #84

"God's opened a lot of doors..." Girard442 Sep 2018 #3

To read more: Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #4

Whataboutism? guillaumeb Sep 2018 #5

Guillaume, sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #9

Er no. It's about the same group. Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #13

And the intent was ony to divert from the actual article. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #23

You funny Major Nikon Sep 2018 #44

Whataboutism generally doesn't apply when one is discussing the same group of people. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #14

It is whataboutism. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #24

Perhaps you could take time out of your busy day to explain. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #32

Or, you could do some research for yourself. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #33

Thought not. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #38

"A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband..." Mariana Sep 2018 #11

Yep. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #15

IT'S GOT NOTHIGN TO DO WITH THERE RELIGOIN!!1!1 Mariana Sep 2018 #16

ATHEIST INTOLERANCE, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS!!! trotsky Sep 2018 #25

No, the Boston atheist group, a non-political group, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #28

That is not what you said at the time, Gil. Mariana Sep 2018 #30

Sorry, but the article and the link make it clear that you are incorrect. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #31

No, it's a question for you to ponder, gil. trotsky Sep 2018 #34

I didn't refer to the article, Gil. Mariana Sep 2018 #47

You mean the train wreck of a thread that proved you have no clue what "intolerance" means? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #45

Not to mention, the accusation of "intolerance" by the Boston Atheists Mariana Sep 2018 #48

Pretzel logic used to rush to the defense of a Trump supporter Major Nikon Sep 2018 #50

No, the thread that provided specifics about a group of atheists guillaumeb Sep 2018 #53

Would banning a Trump supporting asshole on DU be an example of "intolerance"? Major Nikon Sep 2018 #56

DU is reserved for Democrats. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #67

Tell the whole story, gil. Not just the part you're cherry-picking. trotsky Sep 2018 #69

Go to the post, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #70

FFS gil, you're STILL going to bat for a Trump supporter. trotsky Sep 2018 #86

So if "intolerance" is stated by rule it's no longer intolerance Major Nikon Sep 2018 #72

Once again, you missed the point. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #74

So the point is had they done so, it would no longer be "intolerance" Major Nikon Sep 2018 #75

That was your third strike. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #76

Wow, an actual attempt at a dodge that wasn't canned Major Nikon Sep 2018 #78

Guillaume, sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #81

Very true. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #88

Would that be ''Birds of a feather...'' sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #89

Correct. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #90

Ah. 😄 sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #91

It has always been politically active, advocating for strong church-state separation. trotsky Sep 2018 #87

Ooh, false dilemma fallacy! Lemme have some o' dat... 😋 sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #80

Neat. trotsky Sep 2018 #20

Good for them. They can join all the other groups rushing there to MineralMan Sep 2018 #6

Agreed. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #7

Are they helping because of their religion? trotsky Sep 2018 #21

It's a great opportunity for recruiting, and for soliciting donations. Mariana Sep 2018 #22

Or..... guillaumeb Sep 2018 #35

I asked you. trotsky Sep 2018 #46

It must be against Jesus's message to answer questions directly. nt. Mariana Sep 2018 #49

Only the inconvenient questions. As Jesus said: MineralMan Sep 2018 #52

As an atheist, I think this is exactly what churches should be doing. Croney Sep 2018 #27

Yes, this is a good role for churches, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #29

It's nice that they're ready to clean up God's messes. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #51