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trotsky

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30. And the doctrine that says priests are subject to canon law.

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 11, 2018, 07:33 AM

Sep 2018

I.e., religion is definitely in this equation.

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The Long, Long History of the Seal of the Confessional [View all] MineralMan Sep 2018 OP

A specific religious belief that directly impacted the scale and depth of the abuse scandal. trotsky Sep 2018 #1

Yes, and since it is a sacrament of the RCC, it will not be changed. MineralMan Sep 2018 #2

It can be fixed zipplewrath Sep 2018 #3

The problem, however, is far more complicated than that. MineralMan Sep 2018 #5

The problem isn't the "rules" zipplewrath Sep 2018 #7

And yet, those "rules" perpetuate the problem, I think. MineralMan Sep 2018 #9

It's a cartel zipplewrath Sep 2018 #11

It is, indeed. We're beginning to learn more about that cartel. MineralMan Sep 2018 #18

Nope zipplewrath Sep 2018 #26

"it has always been the case that the priest can give instructions to the penitent to confess" trotsky Sep 2018 #6

Yes they do zipplewrath Sep 2018 #10

"even canon law ultimately would allow the Vatican to apply appropriate punishment" trotsky Sep 2018 #20

Yup zipplewrath Sep 2018 #24

And the doctrine that says priests are subject to canon law. trotsky Sep 2018 #30

An excellent answer. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #16

Yup zipplewrath Sep 2018 #23

But it's also theology and canon law. trotsky Sep 2018 #31

Above what law? zipplewrath Sep 2018 #33

Above secular law, of course. trotsky Sep 2018 #35

A question about your hypothetical PJMcK Sep 2018 #4

Actually, I would think that many, many such sexual offenders MineralMan Sep 2018 #8

I'll go a little further. In times past, masturbation was considered to be MineralMan Sep 2018 #13

I'm not going to pretend that sexually abusing kids isn't heinous qazplm135 Sep 2018 #34

Without this rule, the confessional wouldn't work. gtar100 Sep 2018 #12

You're probably right about that. MineralMan Sep 2018 #15

It already should zipplewrath Sep 2018 #28

At least in the US, seminarians now undergo background checks. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #14

Those rarely find anything in young people, and are MineralMan Sep 2018 #17

Zipplewrath spoke of a solution. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #19

I think the odds of that happening are very long. MineralMan Sep 2018 #21

The Pope is, in theory, the supreme authority. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #22

But, you see, Pope Francis will do no such thing. MineralMan Sep 2018 #25

I hope that I will prove to be correct, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #27

The road to hell is paved with hope. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #32

I don't think confession is the main problem marylandblue Sep 2018 #29