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guillaumeb

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15. And you cannot help misusing, or misunderstanding, the term.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:54 PM

Sep 2018

But it is a handy shortcut to avoid actual discussion.

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Why the Catholic Church can't move on from the sex abuse crisis [View all] guillaumeb Sep 2018 OP

Oh, they're *old*cases. TwistOneUp Sep 2018 #1

Did you read the entire article? guillaumeb Sep 2018 #2

The Church is still spending millions$$$ Freddie Sep 2018 #3

Agreed, they are still covering up. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #4

Well, the reason all of those cases are old cases is because MineralMan Sep 2018 #5

When you term it "an apologist web site" that is nonsense. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #11

And whatabout...? MineralMan Sep 2018 #13

And you cannot help misusing, or misunderstanding, the term. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #15

I do not remember an actual discussion with you. MineralMan Sep 2018 #18

Well, you could stop repeating the term "whataboutism", guillaumeb Sep 2018 #20

I didn't actually use that word. MineralMan Sep 2018 #22

We actually do have estimates for the extent of abuse in both families and church marylandblue Sep 2018 #34

They fail miserably. This place does a good job on names and places. GemDigger Sep 2018 #6

From the site: guillaumeb Sep 2018 #23

Yes but is also has much documented evidence. GemDigger Sep 2018 #24

I am not disputing that. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #25

Since that accountablity edhopper Sep 2018 #7

I don't see the "seal of the confessional" being removed. MineralMan Sep 2018 #8

Well as we all know, that's exactly what happens in secular institutions too. trotsky Sep 2018 #26

Right. MineralMan Sep 2018 #27

They can't do it because it would implicate the current leadership marylandblue Sep 2018 #9

Exactly edhopper Sep 2018 #10

Only time will show. eom guillaumeb Sep 2018 #12

Well, it has been about 1800 years so far. How long do you MineralMan Sep 2018 #14

From the excerpt, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #16

That is not an answer to my question, which was: MineralMan Sep 2018 #17

Until we see progress. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #19

Still not an answer. As I said, we've been waiting 1800 years already. MineralMan Sep 2018 #21

And if we don't see progress? trotsky Sep 2018 #28

Then we wait until Hell freezes over, I suppose. MineralMan Sep 2018 #29

Then the justice systems in every country guillaumeb Sep 2018 #30

And what if they don't? trotsky Sep 2018 #31

That is a good question. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #32

And yet if the church continues to protect criminals, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. trotsky Sep 2018 #37

We will have to wait, at least, until the current generation of bishops dies out marylandblue Sep 2018 #33

You know that isn't the way it works, right? Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #35

They've also made periodic reforms marylandblue Sep 2018 #36