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JHan

(10,173 posts)
17. I think the reason they disrupt is entitlement.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:59 PM
Sep 2018

Those who want to behave like an insurgent and dismiss "identity politics" won't ever grasp the idea of collective identities and the importance of engaging with allies who may not fully share their vision.

No coincidence that identity politics has become a hot topic when these same white liberals want to tear everything down. It was they who decided that the white working class should be at the epicenter of political calculus, ignoring that Democrats were losing whites since the 60's when the party pushed a civil rights agenda. Anything outside of WWC concerns was deemed a wedge issue, divisive or frivolous or 3rd on their priority list.

And this is problematic because identity has always been embedded in Politics, particularly American politics. When white men thoroughly dominated the political arena, "identity" often featured highly in campaigns, from anti-catholicism, projecting masculinity to contrast with an opponent's perceived homosexuality, archetypes like the "Outsider" the "dude you can have a beer with", the "Log cabin and hard cider candidate", and channeling the "silent majority" - all identity based, and crafted to resonate as such. When non-whites and women entered the arena and demanded representation, the modern idea of "Identity Politics" arose. I'd even say identity politics has become a euphemism for civil rights.

When the chosen candidate for these liberals lost, they decided that the system must have been rigged. The same system African Americans pragmatically worked through to wield influence. Worse, when their chosen candidate - Sanders- was way behind in the delegate count, demands were made that Superdelegates who supported his opponent Hillary, a stalwart who always worked her way in the party, switch their support from her, who the base clearly wanted, to him who was losing badly. This reeks of entitlement and sour grapes.

Changing the system when it doesn't suit you is the prerogative and privilege of white men, the fracas over Super Delegates is just a symptom of this. The next step will be pushing for all open primaries. Clinton won the majority of Open Primaries in 2016 but she won them in states with many black Democrats. I suppose the hope is with all open primaries, this dynamic will shift, suppressing the influence of some demographics. Yes a cynical take, but how else to take it really?

You know, it's interesting that major populist movements in the States are always connected to race somehow, and not class, because we have no concept of class in a deep way. We talk about race like those in other countries talk about class and this is because this country's wealth was generated from a racial caste system. It's why economic justice and social justice must always be intertwined, with social justice as the foundation. To see some white liberals deny this has been a revelation, and I think I'm justified to be wary of them.

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Recommended. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #1
That is what I'd like to understand better Recursion Sep 2018 #2
You're right that it's not about ideology. But THEY think it's about ideology. betsuni Sep 2018 #16
Disrupt institutions that AAs have fought to have input on with no intention of sharing any power.. brush Sep 2018 #6
An interesting premise. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #7
My theory is that in the last 2 generations The Polack MSgt Sep 2018 #14
A perceptive theory. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #22
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner marylandblue Sep 2018 #3
Very well stated. Basic LA Sep 2018 #4
the ugly truth DonCoquixote Sep 2018 #5
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #10
Thank You, DonCoquixote Cha Sep 2018 #11
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #15
++ JHan Sep 2018 #18
Damn I wish I could disagree with that Recursion Sep 2018 #21
I wish I could DonCoquixote Sep 2018 #23
This white guy agrees whole-heartedly. "Liberal" without structure and consistency and Atticus Sep 2018 #8
K&R betsuni Sep 2018 #9
Why Would They When They're The ones Holding It Up? Me. Sep 2018 #12
Correct. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #13
I think the reason they disrupt is entitlement. JHan Sep 2018 #17
K&R for visibility. lunamagica Sep 2018 #19
Kick and rec JustAnotherGen Sep 2018 #20
Needs to be discussed Chitown Kev Sep 2018 #24
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