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Showing Original Post only (View all)A truthiness problem amongst gun control advocates, or 'shh, don't let the cat out of the bag'? [View all]
This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by krispos42 (a host of the Gun Control & RKBA group).
You be the judge...
A link to the following was posted in the other group:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/11/12/hand-over-your-weapons
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212690
Hand Over Your Weapons
If gun-control advocates really want to stanch the blood, they'll have to persuade more people
of the need to confiscate millions of firearms
by David Scharfenberg
...In other words, the proposals arent just difficult to enact in the current political climate; their practical effects would also be quite limited. On occasion, though, leading Democrats will make oblique reference to a more sweeping policy change: seizing a huge number of weapons from law-abiding citizens.
If gun-control advocates really want to stanch the blood, they'll have to persuade more people
of the need to confiscate millions of firearms
by David Scharfenberg
...In other words, the proposals arent just difficult to enact in the current political climate; their practical effects would also be quite limited. On occasion, though, leading Democrats will make oblique reference to a more sweeping policy change: seizing a huge number of weapons from law-abiding citizens.
To which a reply was posted by one of the group hosts:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212690#post4
4. Your call for the confiscation
of legal firearms is straight out of the NRA "fear" handbook aimed at selling more guns, but thanks for your concern. There will never be a mass "confiscation" of guns as the Second Amendment does not allow it, and REAL gun control advocates aren't calling for any form of mass confiscation.
of legal firearms is straight out of the NRA "fear" handbook aimed at selling more guns, but thanks for your concern. There will never be a mass "confiscation" of guns as the Second Amendment does not allow it, and REAL gun control advocates aren't calling for any form of mass confiscation.
Trouble is, further along in the very article cited in the OP comes:
John Rosenthal, co-founder and chairman of Massachusetts-based Stop Handgun Violence, says it may be time to embrace a mandatory buybackthe relentless tide of mass shootings leaving weary activists with little choice.
I am so struggling right now to find the strength to keep going, he said earlier this week, a day after the Texas church shooting. And guess what, I have been thinking a lot about Australia. They had that one horrific event, with 35 killed, with an assault weapon. They banned them, they bought them backand there hasnt been a mass shooting since.
I am so struggling right now to find the strength to keep going, he said earlier this week, a day after the Texas church shooting. And guess what, I have been thinking a lot about Australia. They had that one horrific event, with 35 killed, with an assault weapon. They banned them, they bought them backand there hasnt been a mass shooting since.
One *could* argue that John Rosenthal isn't a "REAL gun control advocate"- except for
the following ...inconvenient... links:
http://www.stophandgunviolence.org/about-us/
About Us
Stop Handgun Violence (SHV) is a non-profit, tax-exempt organization founded in 1994 by successful businessman, John Rosenthal, and the late Michael Kennedy. SHV works to prevent firearm violence through public awareness, education, policy advocacy and law enforcement strategies without banning guns. In Massachusetts, were making a real difference. Since 1994, we have passed the most comprehensive gun laws in the nation and have drastically reduced gun injuries, homicides and accidents. Massachusetts gun violence prevention efforts are a model for the nation.
Since its start, Stop Handgun Violence has increased public awareness about the epidemic of gun violence. SHV developed several effective media and public education campaigns, the centerpiece of which is one of the largest billboards in the nation. Other initiatives have included distributing trigger locks, a nationwide billboard campaign, partnering with after school programs, and media productions with the U.S. Attorneys Office and the Department of Justice.
SHV was the lead advocate for the Massachusetts Gun Control Act of 1998 (Chapter 180), the most comprehensive gun violence prevention law in the country...SHV continues to support legislation that keeps guns out of the hands of children and criminals.
Stop Handgun Violence (SHV) is a non-profit, tax-exempt organization founded in 1994 by successful businessman, John Rosenthal, and the late Michael Kennedy. SHV works to prevent firearm violence through public awareness, education, policy advocacy and law enforcement strategies without banning guns. In Massachusetts, were making a real difference. Since 1994, we have passed the most comprehensive gun laws in the nation and have drastically reduced gun injuries, homicides and accidents. Massachusetts gun violence prevention efforts are a model for the nation.
Since its start, Stop Handgun Violence has increased public awareness about the epidemic of gun violence. SHV developed several effective media and public education campaigns, the centerpiece of which is one of the largest billboards in the nation. Other initiatives have included distributing trigger locks, a nationwide billboard campaign, partnering with after school programs, and media productions with the U.S. Attorneys Office and the Department of Justice.
SHV was the lead advocate for the Massachusetts Gun Control Act of 1998 (Chapter 180), the most comprehensive gun violence prevention law in the country...SHV continues to support legislation that keeps guns out of the hands of children and criminals.
http://www.stophandgunviolence.org/partners/
Stop Handgun Violence is a member organization of the following groups
...Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) is a 501(c)(4) organization that was founded in 1974. We seek to secure freedom from gun violence through research, strategic engagement and effective policy advocacy.
Our organizational structure is unique among national gun violence prevention organizations. CSGV is composed of 47 national organizations working to reduce gun violence. Our coalition members include religious organizations, child welfare advocates, public health professionals, and social justice organizations. This diversity of member organizations allows us to reach a wide variety of grassroots constituencies who share our vision of non-violence.
...Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) is a 501(c)(4) organization that was founded in 1974. We seek to secure freedom from gun violence through research, strategic engagement and effective policy advocacy.
Our organizational structure is unique among national gun violence prevention organizations. CSGV is composed of 47 national organizations working to reduce gun violence. Our coalition members include religious organizations, child welfare advocates, public health professionals, and social justice organizations. This diversity of member organizations allows us to reach a wide variety of grassroots constituencies who share our vision of non-violence.
Hmmm- who to believe, who to believe?
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A truthiness problem amongst gun control advocates, or 'shh, don't let the cat out of the bag'? [View all]
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Nov 2017
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