Is this enough? 50+ dead, 200+ wounded.

[krispos42]

35. I actually said the opposite.

It's there for everybody to see.

Magazine-capacity limits? 10-round magazines instead of 30? Might have helped. Impossible to say how much; this bastard just kept reloading, but assuming that larger magazines were not available (big assumption but let's run with it) the time losses in reloading three times as often would have made a noticeable difference in the amount of shots fired during the long and drawn-out event. Maybe... 30%? 40%? Something like that seems reasonable.

Banning bump-fire stocks? Probably could do that, might have helped in this case. Again, impossible to say how much, probably not as much as the magazine-capacity limit.

My point was that whatever twisted thinking or mental illness makes people perform mass shootings, does not seem to be deterred by a lack of hardware. They seem to take what they can get within whatever preparation time they allow themselves and go for it. Virginia Tech was done by 2 handguns. Sandy Hook, a single rifle.

This asshole would have done the same thing if he had only one or two rifles. Yeah, the body count almost certainly would have been less but it still would have been ENOUGH. He would have killed and maimed and terrorized and that sick itch in his brain would have been satisfied. The shooting still would have happened, the NRA would still be blamed, Democrats would be demanding gun-control laws, and you and I would still be having a discussion similar to this.

If you think you have the votes for a semi-auto ban, and/or a handgun ban, then go for it. I have absolutely no idea how it will turn out, and I fear the god-damn Republicans winning the midterms based on whatever is going to be proposed, but that's just me.