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HAB911

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Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:41 PM Mar 2017

Did Florida's stand your ground law reduce violent crime? (PolitiFact) [View all]

As one of the original authors of Florida’s 2005 "stand your ground" law, Sen. Dennis Baxley, has a long history of touting its success.

Since the 2012 shooting death of Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, opponents have pointed to an increase in justifiable homicides to argue against the law, which protects individuals who use deadly force in self-defense instead of retreating.

Baxley, a Republican from Ocala, has repeatedly countered that argument and others by connecting the law’s passage 12 years ago with decreasing crime rates.

He did it again in a March 15 debate on legislation that would shift the burden of proof from the defendant to the prosecutor in "stand your ground" cases. (The Senate approved SB 128 by a 23-15 vote; the House version has received the backing of one committee so far.)

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/16/dennis-baxley/did-floridas-stand-your-ground-law-reduce-violent-/

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States that don't have stand your ground louis-t Mar 2017 #1
"Just another excuse to murder people." Who has been murdered, and when? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #2
Pretty hard to determine when one of the victims/perps louis-t Mar 2017 #3
Well then, do you have at least one example of a shooting you found questionable? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #4
Zimmerman considered it but his attorneys talked him out of it. louis-t Mar 2017 #5
no there isn't gejohnston Mar 2017 #13
It is not an honest question. louis-t Mar 2017 #16
self defense is not a crime gejohnston Mar 2017 #18
You people are delusional. louis-t Mar 2017 #19
not at all gejohnston Mar 2017 #20
There's a lot of material on this. louis-t Mar 2017 #6
SYG simply means no duty to retreat gejohnston Mar 2017 #12
And by the way, a lot of these cases never go to trial. louis-t Mar 2017 #7
"(Y)ou just have to look for it." No, I don't- as it was *your* claim to prove, not mine. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #8
Uh, "they're going to stop in 5 feet and jump out with a gun" louis-t Mar 2017 #9
No, that was held to be self-defense, which applied *before* SYG in Louisiana friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #11
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #10
Stand your ground wasn't intended to reduce violent crime. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #14
key syg findings wrt firearms jimmy the one Mar 2017 #15
Let's distinguish between "increases in homicide by firearm" louis-t Mar 2017 #17
Homicide doesn't necessarily indicate crime. There are many homicides that are not criminal. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #21
Homicide: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #22
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