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In reply to the discussion: House Passes Gun Bill: Firearms Law Aimed At Abusers [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)5. male DVs don't often use guns,
they tend to use more violent means. How far should we go with this? Random house searches?
I would agree with this if there were harsh penalties for making false claims.
In the other hand, there are some any interesting facts that are usually not considered when domestic violence is discussed. Women are seen as victims of domestic violence by large majority (between 85% and 95% of reports showing female victims) over men because men do not call the police; however, if we would consider all the men that do not file a report, for one or another reason, we would not only find out that women are responsible for 70% of domestic violence cases, as Linda Kelly, Professor of Law, Indiana University School of Law, Indianapolis. B.A. wrote on her book DISABUSING THE DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC ABUSE: HOW WOMEN BATTER MEN AND THE ROLE OF THE FEMINIST STATE, 1988; but also that a large percentage of the women's reports are either false allegations or that the woman was the initiator of aggression but also who called the police when the man responded to the aggressions. How many times have we heard or even seen of a woman vandalizing a man's car by scratching it with keys as a result of jealousy or after discovering adultery? Or threaten with committing suicide if the relationship was ended? Or throwing personal belongings out an apartment window or against a wall? Men do not file reports under these circumstances, but they happen every day and more often than not the perpetrator is a woman.
False accusations of domestic violence are, sadly enough, utilized as a tool to obtain legal advantages over a divorce/custody case. In many instances a divorcing parent, mostly women, will make a false accusation of domestic violence against the man to gain custody rights over their children and ruining the other parent's life in many ways. The alleged "aggressor" will be put in jail and have public records of domestic violence, potentially loosing custody of a child, losing a job, professional licenses, etc. In many cases Judges are reluctant to dismiss a restraining order risking that the accusation was rightful and thus leaving the accuser exposed to further abuse. Sometimes Judges not even allow the accusers to explain themselves and simply make a ruling by reading the "victim's" statement. Victims of "false accusations of domestic violence" have changed their life becoming miserably, in many cases, by losing their jobs, thus not being able to not only pay their bills, but also a court order child support, bringing them back to jail and into a cycle that is emotionally devastating to both the victim and his/her children.
False accusations of domestic violence are, sadly enough, utilized as a tool to obtain legal advantages over a divorce/custody case. In many instances a divorcing parent, mostly women, will make a false accusation of domestic violence against the man to gain custody rights over their children and ruining the other parent's life in many ways. The alleged "aggressor" will be put in jail and have public records of domestic violence, potentially loosing custody of a child, losing a job, professional licenses, etc. In many cases Judges are reluctant to dismiss a restraining order risking that the accusation was rightful and thus leaving the accuser exposed to further abuse. Sometimes Judges not even allow the accusers to explain themselves and simply make a ruling by reading the "victim's" statement. Victims of "false accusations of domestic violence" have changed their life becoming miserably, in many cases, by losing their jobs, thus not being able to not only pay their bills, but also a court order child support, bringing them back to jail and into a cycle that is emotionally devastating to both the victim and his/her children.
http://www.examiner.com/article/a-modern-family-law-problem-false-accusations-of-domestic-violence
Without proper due process, and protection and stiff civil and criminal penalties for false accusations, nobody in their right mind can support this. Know any divorce lawyers? Take poll and ask them how many of them suggest to their female clients that an accusation would give them that advantage.
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Yeah, wait 'til the commit a real crime. Like murder. Then after the trial and conviction
flamin lib
Apr 2016
#2
No sir. Guns everywhere all the time without concern for public or personal safery
flamin lib
Apr 2016
#15
No. You are wrong and no amount of reason will convince you otherwise so I'm done with you. nt
flamin lib
Apr 2016
#21