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Gun Control & RKBA

theatre goon

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16. It's really too bad...

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #12)

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:43 PM

Apr 2016

...that we can't get the anti-rights people in general, and the anti-gun people specifically, to join the rest of us in reality.

They just keep repeating that "gun violence" is an epidemic, or that the CDC is banned from doing research, and various other fantasies, ignoring the actual facts of the matter.

Until that changes, I don't see much headway being made -- well, except for the continuing liberalization of gun-ownership and -carry laws, or the continuing decrease in violent crime rates. Those things are doing just fine, in spine of the anti-rights folks regular tantrums...

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There is no ban on CDC gun violence research... [View all] tortoise1956 Apr 2016 OP

Reserachers weren't willing to risk their livelihood to find out what "promoting gun control" means A Little Weird Apr 2016 #1

given that most of the research was like the Kellerman gejohnston Apr 2016 #2

Yes it was a loss A Little Weird Apr 2016 #3

Simply read the studies and the gejohnston Apr 2016 #5

Every study that you don't like because it doesn't call for more guns is junk to you. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #11

no, gejohnston Apr 2016 #14

Ya mean like Kleck? nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #18

Kleck is a scientist, gejohnston Apr 2016 #19

And he couldn't research his way out of a paperbag with a roadmap and a razorblade. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #21

empirical truth and reality has no partisan bias. gejohnston Apr 2016 #22

I think the CDC itself said as much when it summarized the "research" to-date. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #13

He regrets that it was over-interpreted tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #7

+1 northernsouthern Apr 2016 #26

I'm not sure I'd trust a researcher who couldn't define "promote" accurately. N/T beevul Apr 2016 #28

Bullshit! SecularMotion Apr 2016 #4

he said proper research gejohnston Apr 2016 #6

Gee, the control guys are really upset about this DonP Apr 2016 #8

It's an article of faith. theatre goon Apr 2016 #9

I see that a lot here. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #12

It's really too bad... theatre goon Apr 2016 #16

It's a bit more complicated than that, since the pointed redirection of funding petronius Apr 2016 #10

Of course we could return to the daze of Michael A. Bellisiles' "Arming America." Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #15

Well, even if it was all a lie, it "should" have been true DonP Apr 2016 #17

I read some of the glowing before & after blurbs on Bellisiles' book jacket... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #20

Yup, they all thought they finally had their hero DonP Apr 2016 #23

That SF earthquake fiasco was like a deus ex machina moment in bad vaudeville. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #24

Slate article on CDC report DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #25

That's very inconvenient for some people DonP Apr 2016 #27

At first I just thought DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #31

Sharing the truth is a great idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #32

Not to mention that private foundations could easily fund universities and think tanks. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #29

But the CDC... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #30